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From: Karl Fogel <kfogel@newton.ch.collab.net>
Cc: storm@cua.dk, schwab@suse.de, tra@biobase.dk, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs in CVS as today does not build - emacs depends on *.elc, which cannot be built without emacs
Date: 21 Nov 2002 11:05:38 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <85lm3mg8f1.fsf@newton.ch.collab.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E18EutF-0002BN-00@fencepost.gnu.org>

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> Please don't do that.  My first message describes
> a much better method.

Whups, already committed now, but even as it is it's an improvement
over the previous situation (an autogen.sh that tells the user to read
INSTALL-CVS is better than no autogen.sh at all).

The method you described wasn't completely fleshed out, and left a few
practical issues unaddressed.  Nevertheless, my original patch
implemented it, or something very close to it, and Kim objected, for
reasons that make a lot of sense to me.

Emacs' bootstrapping is both different from, and more complex than,
most other projects.  If we try to build too much intelligence into
autogen.sh, I think we'll just end up hampering developers.  IMHO it's
better for them to just read & understand INSTALL-CVS.

However, if we can come up with some precise description of how
autogen.sh should behave, I'd be happy to implement it.  Can you
describe exactly what you had in mind?

-Karl

  reply	other threads:[~2002-11-21 17:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-29 21:42 Emacs in CVS as today does not build - emacs depends on *.elc, which cannot be built without emacs Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
2002-10-29 21:55 ` Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
2002-10-30 22:00   ` Kim F. Storm
2002-10-31  8:10     ` Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
2002-10-31 14:14       ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-10-31 14:40         ` Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
2002-10-31 14:55           ` Andreas Schwab
2002-10-31 16:24             ` Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
2002-10-31 17:01               ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-01  0:41                 ` Steven Tamm
2002-11-01 15:34                   ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-02 17:15                     ` Andreas Schwab
2002-11-03  2:24                       ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-03 23:27                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-11-04  7:20                           ` Kai Großjohann
2002-11-04 14:53                           ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-04 15:24                             ` Andreas Schwab
2002-11-04 15:26                               ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-04 15:31                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-11-04 15:43                               ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-04 16:17                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-11-02  3:32                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-01  8:34                 ` Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
2002-11-01 15:40                   ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-03  8:13                     ` Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
2002-11-03  8:36                       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2002-11-03  9:10                         ` Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
2002-11-04 12:02                           ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-31 18:10               ` Andreas Schwab
2002-11-02  3:32                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-02  2:37                   ` Karl Fogel
2002-11-03 13:56                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-04  1:31                       ` Karl Fogel
2002-11-04 18:06                         ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-20  1:42                       ` Karl Fogel
2002-11-20 11:29                         ` Kim F. Storm
2002-11-20 17:05                           ` Karl Fogel
2002-11-21 17:13                             ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-21 17:05                               ` Karl Fogel [this message]
2002-11-23 22:57                                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-21 17:12                         ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-01  9:39               ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-31 19:03           ` Eli Zaretskii

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