* Re: master a9f147a: Use the full name of the null byte/character, not its abbreviation
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@ 2020-10-05 19:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-05 19:21 ` Andreas Schwab
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From: Stefan Monnier @ 2020-10-05 19:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel; +Cc: Andreas Schwab
> -@xref{Lisp and Coding Systems, inhibit-nul-byte-detection}.
> +@xref{Lisp and Coding Systems, inhibit-null-byte-detection}.
I think this patch is ill-advised.
AFAIK "NULL" is a pointer of zero value, whereas the byte/char of zero
value is called "NUL", so if we want to make a change it should be from
"null-byte" to "nul-byte", not the other way around.
Especially since:
% grep '\<nul\>' etc/NEWS*
etc/NEWS.27:** 'inhibit-null-byte-detection' is renamed to 'inhibit-nul-byte-detection'.
%
-- Stefan
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* Re: master a9f147a: Use the full name of the null byte/character, not its abbreviation
2020-10-05 19:05 ` master a9f147a: Use the full name of the null byte/character, not its abbreviation Stefan Monnier
@ 2020-10-05 19:21 ` Andreas Schwab
2020-10-05 19:34 ` Drew Adams
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From: Andreas Schwab @ 2020-10-05 19:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: emacs-devel
On Okt 05 2020, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> -@xref{Lisp and Coding Systems, inhibit-nul-byte-detection}.
>> +@xref{Lisp and Coding Systems, inhibit-null-byte-detection}.
>
> I think this patch is ill-advised.
>
> AFAIK "NULL" is a pointer of zero value, whereas the byte/char of zero
> value is called "NUL",
NUL is the ASCII abbreviation (TLA) of the null character.
Andreas.
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* RE: master a9f147a: Use the full name of the null byte/character, not its abbreviation
2020-10-05 19:21 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2020-10-05 19:34 ` Drew Adams
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From: Drew Adams @ 2020-10-05 19:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Schwab, Stefan Monnier; +Cc: emacs-devel
> >> -@xref{Lisp and Coding Systems, inhibit-nul-byte-detection}.
> >> +@xref{Lisp and Coding Systems, inhibit-null-byte-detection}.
> >
> > I think this patch is ill-advised.
> >
> > AFAIK "NULL" is a pointer of zero value, whereas the byte/char of zero
> > value is called "NUL",
>
> NUL is the ASCII abbreviation (TLA) of the null character.
Yes. The character is called the null character or
the null byte character, or sometimes a null byte.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Null_character
See bug #43780, which unfortunately was closed as "not a bug".
https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=43780
IMO, this variable renaming was gratuitous and ill-advised.
Can we please revert this renaming from "null" to "nul"?
Or if you insist that we allow the new name, with "nul",
can we at least unobsolete the former (and better) name,
with "null"?
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