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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Alex <agrambot@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Native line numbers, final testing
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2017 20:39:45 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83y3s2n5pa.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fuecc7vg.fsf@lylat> (message from Alex on Tue, 04 Jul 2017 13:36:03 -0600)

> From: Alex <agrambot@gmail.com>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2017 13:36:03 -0600
> 
> I've never heard of line-prefix before this discussion, so I don't know
> what the expected behaviour of it is/should be. However, I don't believe
> the width of the line numbers should have any bearing on the column
> position of a particular character in the buffer. Indeed, C-x = at the
> beginning of a line with display-line-numbers correctly shows
> "column=0". So I don't see the link between your recipe and mine.

"C-x =" just counts characters.  Try "M-: (posn-at-point) RET" for
more insight.

> I highly doubt many, if anyone else, expect line numbers to behave like
> this.

It's quite possible.  I just want to hear that before I write the
code.  Since I probably won't use line numbers (except for debugging
problems they cause ;-), I don't think my judgment is good enough
here.

> >> > And note that displaying the numbers in the margin would not have
> >> > solved the issue, since the width of the margins would still be
> >> > estimated by the same heuristics.
> >> 
> >> So there's no reliable way to get the x-coordinate of the end of the
> >> left margin/fringe?
> >
> > Of course there is: call posn-at-point and its ilk.
> >
> > The problem is to know that x coordinate _before_ the margins actually
> > change their width.  That is the problem to be solved in this case.
> 
> I don't understand. If the x-coordinate can be calculated at the start
> of vertical-motion, then isn't that the x-coordinate before the margins
> change their width?

Yes.  But I think we are talking past each other, see below.

> As a thought for the current problem, could you adjust the position
> after vertical-motion is called if it turns out that the
> line-number-width/margin-size changed?

Sure.  I already write code to do that, I just stashed it waiting to
see what this discussion concludes.  (And it isn't enough to make the
correction inside vertical-motion: temporary-goal-column also needs to
be adjusted.)

> >> Why don't these issues affect nlinum, since it sets
> >> the width dynamically?
> >
> > Because nlinum and similar modes change the width of the margin
> > _after_ C-n already moved point.  So C-n does its thing with the
> > margin still at its old width, and doesn't need to deal with the width
> > changing under its feet.
> 
> Didn't you write before (when talking about 'visual) that line number
> calculation/display was done after the point is moved? In that case, how
> is display-line-numbers different to what you just described (outside of
> not using the margin)?

I think I lost the focus of this discussion, so I'm not sure anymore
I'm answering your questions correctly.  What is it that you are
getting at with these questions?

> > I don't think this should be done in C.  I can provide a function to
> > obtain the current width of the line-number display, and then a Lisp
> > program, called from some suitable hook, could notice when the value
> > becomes larger, and set display-line-number-width to that same value.
> > Would that be satisfactory?
> 
> If the performance and convenience is about the same, then I suppose it
> doesn't matter where it's implemented. What would be a suitable hook? I
> see a pre-redisplay-functions, but not a post-redisplay-functions.

pre-redisplay-functions should be OK, but I think even
pre-command-hook is fine.  You really want to set this before
redisplay runs, because after it runs it might be too late.

> would you provide a specific display-line-number hook?

I don't see why we would want such a hook, and what would it do and
how.

> I believe that the C-n/C-p issue should at least be a blocker for 26.1.

We should be well past this long before we consider what blocks 26.1.



  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-05 17:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-30 14:49 Native line numbers, final testing Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-30 17:51 ` Alex
2017-06-30 18:20   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-30 19:06     ` Alex
2017-06-30 19:55       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-30 21:15         ` Alex
2017-07-01  8:00           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-01 21:00             ` Alex
2017-07-02  2:40               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-02  5:16                 ` Alex
2017-07-02 15:10                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-02 16:47                     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-02 16:51                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-02 17:38                         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-02 19:27                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-03  5:06                     ` Alex
2017-07-03 15:24                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-04 19:36                         ` Alex
2017-07-05 17:39                           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2017-07-07  2:46                             ` Alex
2017-07-07  6:19                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-07  9:24                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-08 20:51                                   ` Alex
2017-07-09 20:16                                     ` James Cloos
2017-07-09 21:45                                       ` Yuri Khan
2017-07-10  2:33                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-10  7:09                                           ` Yuri Khan
2017-07-10 17:02                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-10  2:31                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-10  5:35                                         ` James Cloos
2017-07-10 17:00                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-10 18:15                                             ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-10 18:18                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-10 18:23                                                 ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-10 18:32                                             ` James Cloos
2017-07-11 20:58                                             ` Alex
2017-07-11 21:18                                               ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-11 21:20                                                 ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-11 21:37                                                   ` Alex
2017-07-12  2:35                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-12  2:53                                                 ` Alex
2017-07-12 14:21                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-12 17:22                                                     ` Alex
2017-07-12 17:25                                                       ` Alex
2017-07-12 18:38                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-12 20:03                                                         ` Alex
2017-07-13  2:38                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-13  4:11                                                             ` Alex
2017-07-13 15:56                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-26  3:50                                                                 ` Alex
2017-07-26 14:42                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-29  6:12                                                                     ` Alex
2017-07-29  7:01                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-07  9:47                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-07  9:49                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-07 11:14                                     ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-07 12:21                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-07 12:29                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                     ` <CAEwkUWN8GkCyOiF4jEgKuZwJHhvMgJi9yVnvggRvu+Yddfp4qQ@mail.gmail.com>
2017-07-07 12:56                                       ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-01  1:59 ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-02 19:27 ` James Nguyen
2017-07-03  2:33   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-03  3:22     ` James Nguyen
2017-07-03 15:58       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-03 17:04         ` James Nguyen
2017-07-04 10:57           ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-04 11:00             ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-04 13:51               ` Kaushal Modi
2017-07-04 14:30               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-04 14:32             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-04 14:48               ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-04 14:50                 ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-04 15:44                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-04 16:22                     ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-04 16:34                       ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-04 16:35                       ` Richard Copley
2017-07-04 16:44                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-04 17:13                           ` Richard Copley
2017-07-04 17:35                             ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-04 17:48                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-04 17:52                               ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-10 18:22                                 ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-10 20:28                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-04 17:47                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-04 17:50                           ` Alex
2017-07-04 18:24                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-04 18:37                               ` Richard Copley
2017-07-04 18:43                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-05 20:24 ` Andy Moreton
2017-07-06 17:24   ` Eli Zaretskii

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