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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Alex <agrambot@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Native line numbers, final testing
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 10:01:24 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83y3r73ewr.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k22r3h5x.fsf@lylat> (message from Alex on Sat, 29 Jul 2017 00:12:42 -0600)

> From: Alex <agrambot@gmail.com>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 00:12:42 -0600
> 
> >> That makes sense, but I still don't understand why explicitly inheriting
> >> from default makes a difference for face remapping. Is it just a
> >> hardcoded workaround?
> >
> > The inheriting face references its parent, so when the parent is
> > remapped, that affects the inheriting face through the attributes that
> > are inherited.
> >
> > What is "hardcoded" here is that text-scale-adjust affects the
> > 'default' face, so faces unrelated to it will not be affected.
> 
> Right, but it's not clear to me why explicitly inheriting from default
> is treated differently from an :inherit value of 'unspecified. From the
> manual:
> 
>   An ‘unspecified’ attribute tells Emacs to refer instead to a parent
>   face

That doesn't cover inheriting from 'unspecified'.  And it really
cannot cover it, because what is a "parent" face when the attribute is
':inherit'?

A comment in xfaces.c:merge_face_vectors says it all:

  static void
  merge_face_vectors (struct frame *f, Lisp_Object *from, Lisp_Object *to,
		      struct named_merge_point *named_merge_points)
  {
    int i;
    Lisp_Object font = Qnil;

    /* If FROM inherits from some other faces, merge their attributes into
       TO before merging FROM's direct attributes.  Note that an :inherit
       attribute of `unspecified' is the same as one of nil; we never
       merge :inherit attributes, so nil is more correct, but lots of
       other code uses `unspecified' as a generic value for face attributes. */

I've now added this caveat to the manual.

> I don't think the ability to customize it should go away, but the system
> in place that allows for the customization just seems odd to me.

IMO it isn't odd, it just didn't mean to affect any face but
'default' or its direct descendants.

> Instead of using an ostensibly redundant :inherit value, why not
> make a customizable list of faces that face remapping also affects?
> 
> Perhaps it's too much work for too little gain.

At this point, it certainly looks like that.



  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-29  7:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-30 14:49 Native line numbers, final testing Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-30 17:51 ` Alex
2017-06-30 18:20   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-30 19:06     ` Alex
2017-06-30 19:55       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-30 21:15         ` Alex
2017-07-01  8:00           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-01 21:00             ` Alex
2017-07-02  2:40               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-02  5:16                 ` Alex
2017-07-02 15:10                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-02 16:47                     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-02 16:51                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-02 17:38                         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-02 19:27                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-03  5:06                     ` Alex
2017-07-03 15:24                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-04 19:36                         ` Alex
2017-07-05 17:39                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-07  2:46                             ` Alex
2017-07-07  6:19                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-07  9:24                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-08 20:51                                   ` Alex
2017-07-09 20:16                                     ` James Cloos
2017-07-09 21:45                                       ` Yuri Khan
2017-07-10  2:33                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-10  7:09                                           ` Yuri Khan
2017-07-10 17:02                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-10  2:31                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-10  5:35                                         ` James Cloos
2017-07-10 17:00                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-10 18:15                                             ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-10 18:18                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-10 18:23                                                 ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-10 18:32                                             ` James Cloos
2017-07-11 20:58                                             ` Alex
2017-07-11 21:18                                               ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-11 21:20                                                 ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-11 21:37                                                   ` Alex
2017-07-12  2:35                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-12  2:53                                                 ` Alex
2017-07-12 14:21                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-12 17:22                                                     ` Alex
2017-07-12 17:25                                                       ` Alex
2017-07-12 18:38                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-12 20:03                                                         ` Alex
2017-07-13  2:38                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-13  4:11                                                             ` Alex
2017-07-13 15:56                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-26  3:50                                                                 ` Alex
2017-07-26 14:42                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-29  6:12                                                                     ` Alex
2017-07-29  7:01                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2017-07-07  9:47                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-07  9:49                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-07 11:14                                     ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-07 12:21                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-07 12:29                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                     ` <CAEwkUWN8GkCyOiF4jEgKuZwJHhvMgJi9yVnvggRvu+Yddfp4qQ@mail.gmail.com>
2017-07-07 12:56                                       ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-01  1:59 ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-02 19:27 ` James Nguyen
2017-07-03  2:33   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-03  3:22     ` James Nguyen
2017-07-03 15:58       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-03 17:04         ` James Nguyen
2017-07-04 10:57           ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-04 11:00             ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-04 13:51               ` Kaushal Modi
2017-07-04 14:30               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-04 14:32             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-04 14:48               ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-04 14:50                 ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-04 15:44                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-04 16:22                     ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-04 16:34                       ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-04 16:35                       ` Richard Copley
2017-07-04 16:44                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-04 17:13                           ` Richard Copley
2017-07-04 17:35                             ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-04 17:48                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-04 17:52                               ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-10 18:22                                 ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-10 20:28                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-04 17:47                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-04 17:50                           ` Alex
2017-07-04 18:24                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-04 18:37                               ` Richard Copley
2017-07-04 18:43                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-05 20:24 ` Andy Moreton
2017-07-06 17:24   ` Eli Zaretskii

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