* Re: emacs-28 7343b0d: ; * etc/NEWS: Native compilation is more picky about missing dependencies.
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@ 2021-11-06 16:49 ` Glenn Morris
2021-11-06 17:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Glenn Morris @ 2021-11-06 16:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii
> branch: emacs-28
> commit 7343b0d0e4a1e665f99ea4473c1a4e4a13081e96
> +Note that JIT native compilation is done in a fresh session of Emacs
> +that is run in a subprocess, so it can legitimately report some
> +warnings and errors that aren't uncovered by byte-compilation. We
> +recommend examining any such warnings before you decide they are
> +false.
I would have hoped that it's well understood that byte compilation must
be done in a separate Emacs process to be reliable, so that any previous
definitions don't pollute the environment. This is not specific to native
compilation.
If this NEWS entry means nothing deeper than that, I find it a bit
misleading.
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* Re: emacs-28 7343b0d: ; * etc/NEWS: Native compilation is more picky about missing dependencies.
2021-11-06 16:49 ` emacs-28 7343b0d: ; * etc/NEWS: Native compilation is more picky about missing dependencies Glenn Morris
@ 2021-11-06 17:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2021-11-06 17:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: emacs-devel
> From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2021 12:49:37 -0400
>
>
> > branch: emacs-28
> > commit 7343b0d0e4a1e665f99ea4473c1a4e4a13081e96
>
> > +Note that JIT native compilation is done in a fresh session of Emacs
> > +that is run in a subprocess, so it can legitimately report some
> > +warnings and errors that aren't uncovered by byte-compilation. We
> > +recommend examining any such warnings before you decide they are
> > +false.
>
> I would have hoped that it's well understood that byte compilation must
> be done in a separate Emacs process to be reliable, so that any previous
> definitions don't pollute the environment. This is not specific to native
> compilation.
It is understood by us, but not by people out there, who are routinely
compiling their init files from sessions that have other files loaded.
> If this NEWS entry means nothing deeper than that, I find it a bit
> misleading.
I don't know if it's deeper, but it doesn't mean to say what you think
it does, and it isn't directed at the Emacs developers.
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