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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Release-critical bugs
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 20:34:29 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83sijnzf8a.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <k0ha03pncm.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>

> From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 12:49:13 -0400
> 
> Less flippantly, more concentrated focus on the release, less "a handful
> of people try to get the release in shape while the majority play with
> the trunk (and argue about VCS)".

I can't agree more, but the question is how to reach that goal?

> (But this might just be my biased impression.)

My impression is similar, FWIW.

> Also a defined release manager position, with the authority
> to set deadlines and decide what needs to be done, which I think was
> lacking this time. (I don't want the job; it needs to be someone
> motivated and with Emacs experience.)

We need a volunteer, yes.

> And more documenting of changes closer to the time they happen, by the
> person who makes the change, rather than leaving it to the end.

I suggested that once, but the suggestion was rejected.  I still think
it's a good policy, successfully implemented in other projects.

> We have ~ 200 developers, in theory. I think say 6 months from feature
> freeze to release ought to be doable, though I would not want to be
> dogmatic about it; it should take as long as it takes.
> 
> When it takes too long, people get disheartened and lose focus.

I absolutely agree, but the problem is a practical one; I think we are
all together on the principles front.



  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-19 17:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-17 17:08 Release-critical bugs David Engster
2014-09-17 19:40 ` Glenn Morris
2014-09-18  2:16   ` Ivan Andrus
2014-09-18 17:28     ` Glenn Morris
2014-09-18  2:39   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-18 12:57     ` Rasmus
2014-09-18 14:51       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-18 17:28     ` Glenn Morris
2014-09-18 17:40       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-19 16:49         ` Glenn Morris
2014-09-19 17:34           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2014-09-24 13:48   ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-09-24 15:04     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-27 15:10     ` Jens Lechtenboerger

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