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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: About the 'minibuffer' frame parameter
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2016 18:34:51 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83popji89w.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57A84256.8030706@gmx.at> (message from martin rudalics on Mon, 08 Aug 2016 10:27:02 +0200)

> Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2016 10:27:02 +0200
> From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
> CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
>  > In general, I prefer to
>  > report the actual values whenever possible, especially when we have no
>  > reason to hide the value from Lisp applications.
> 
> Modulo the fact that, as I mentioned above, some application might want
> to use (not (frame-parameter frame 'minibuffer)) to check whether it is
> allowed to change the minibuffer window of an arbitrary frame.
> 
>  >> As mentioned before, removing the special treatment of the 'minibuffer'
>  >> parameter in ‘frame-parameters’ would imply that Elisp code relying on
>  >> the values we report currently might be broken in the future.
>  >
>  > And my suggestion to that was to fix that code, wherever we find it.
> 
> frameset.el already fixes the code internally so we would have to revert
> those fixes.  That's hairy.  And I don't know how many times anyone else
> already has invented a workaround for all these idiosyncrasies.

So what is your suggestion for the course of actions?



  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-08 15:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-31 18:12 About the 'minibuffer' frame parameter martin rudalics
2016-08-05 13:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-05 16:37   ` martin rudalics
2016-08-05 17:18     ` Drew Adams
2016-08-05 17:35       ` martin rudalics
2016-08-05 17:52         ` Drew Adams
2016-08-05 18:19           ` martin rudalics
2016-08-05 18:37             ` Drew Adams
2016-08-06  9:32               ` martin rudalics
2016-08-06 16:46                 ` Drew Adams
2016-08-07  8:46                   ` martin rudalics
2017-01-14  0:59                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2017-01-14  7:47                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-14  9:18                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2017-01-14 10:42                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-14 11:05                           ` martin rudalics
2017-01-14 14:01                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2017-01-19  3:54                               ` John Wiegley
2017-01-14 15:56                             ` Drew Adams
2017-01-15  3:01                           ` Richard Stallman
2016-08-05 19:25     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-06  9:33       ` martin rudalics
2016-08-07 13:54         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-08  8:27           ` martin rudalics
2016-08-08 15:34             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-08-09  8:27               ` martin rudalics
2016-08-09 14:51                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-09 16:07                   ` martin rudalics
2016-08-09 16:21                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-09 17:34                       ` martin rudalics
2016-08-09 17:51                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-10 12:15                           ` martin rudalics
2016-08-10 14:23                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-08-10 14:54                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-10 14:49                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-21  9:41                               ` martin rudalics
2016-08-21 20:51                                 ` Kaushal Modi
2016-08-22 12:49                                   ` Kaushal Modi
2016-08-22 13:03                                     ` Kaushal Modi
2016-08-22 15:51                                       ` Kaushal Modi
2016-08-22 16:01                                       ` martin rudalics
2016-08-22 16:27                                         ` Kaushal Modi
2016-08-23  8:19                                           ` martin rudalics

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