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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com>
Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, joaotavora@gmail.com, juri@linkov.net,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: cl-lib warnings
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2022 09:30:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83bknu8tmo.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B4B0311F-9198-4D65-8C2B-F25F6BBE310B@gmail.com> (message from Yuan Fu on Thu, 22 Dec 2022 14:24:02 -0800)

> From: Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 14:24:02 -0800
> Cc: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>,
>  joaotavora@gmail.com,
>  juri@linkov.net,
>  monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
>  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> > I'm afraid if we preload cl-lib, that would open the gates of hell
> > whereby all of our code will be rewritten in cl-lib dialect that is
> > (at least for me) much harder to read and maintain.  So maybe wait
> > until I'm safely dead (at least as far as Emacs is concerned) before
> > doing that.
> > 
> 
> Wait, what constitutes of cl-lib dialect? Do you mean things like cl-defun? I hope using cl-loop and cl-reduce, cl-remove-if and the like doesn’t make code harder to read.

Yes, cl-loop is one of the worst offenders in my eyes.  If I want to
use Fortran or C, I will use Fortran or C; I don't want to see Fortran
for-loops in Emacs Lisp.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-12-23  7:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <jwvv8mc4eax.fsf@iro.umontreal.ca>
     [not found] ` <86o7s3lsnx.fsf@mail.linkov.net>
2022-12-20 18:42   ` cl-lib warnings (was: bug#60102: Move gv-expander of substring to cl-lib) Stefan Monnier
2022-12-21  8:37     ` cl-lib warnings Juri Linkov
2022-12-21 12:45       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-21 12:57         ` João Távora
2022-12-21 13:47           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-21 14:04             ` João Távora
2022-12-21 14:20               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-21 14:35                 ` João Távora
2022-12-21 14:50                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2022-12-21 14:55                   ` João Távora
2022-12-21 14:57                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2022-12-21 15:08                       ` João Távora
2022-12-26  3:13                         ` Milan Glacier
2022-12-26 15:10                           ` João Távora
2022-12-26 23:48                             ` Milan Glacier
2022-12-27  0:05                               ` João Távora
2022-12-27  3:43                                 ` Tim Cross
2022-12-27 10:16                                   ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-12-27 13:00                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-12-21 17:14                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-21 22:33                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2022-12-22  7:13                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-22  7:23                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2022-12-22  8:53                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-22 22:24                         ` Yuan Fu
2022-12-22 23:56                           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-12-23  7:30                           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-12-23 23:42                             ` Yuan Fu
2022-12-24  0:24                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2022-12-24 14:08                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-12-24 14:39                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2022-12-24 19:13                                     ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-12-24  0:26                               ` João Távora
2022-12-24 10:33                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-12-24 11:01                                   ` João Távora
2022-12-26  0:11                                     ` cl-loop and plists vs alists Philip Kaludercic
2022-12-26  0:35                                       ` João Távora
2022-12-26 21:06                                         ` Bob Rogers
2022-12-24 22:59                                 ` cl-lib warnings Sean Whitton
2022-12-25  1:21                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-12-25  2:39                                     ` package-initialize was " T.V Raman
2022-12-25  4:11                                       ` T.V Raman
2022-12-26  0:01                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-12-26  2:18                                         ` T.V Raman
2022-12-25  7:02                                     ` tomas
2022-12-25  9:55                                       ` João Távora
2022-12-25 11:33                                         ` tomas
2022-12-26  4:47                                     ` Sean Whitton
2022-12-24  6:40                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-24 13:01                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-06  5:40                   ` Sean Whitton
2023-01-06  7:34                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-06 17:58                       ` Sean Whitton
2023-01-06 18:14                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-06 19:03                           ` Sean Whitton
2023-01-06 19:45                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-21 14:15             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-21 17:53         ` Stefan Monnier
2022-12-24 22:55           ` Sean Whitton
2022-12-25  7:05             ` tomas
2022-12-25  8:29           ` Juri Linkov

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