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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs on OS X development
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 06:25:36 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <837gtmgcb3.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d33ektbo.fsf@wanadoo.es>

> From: Óscar Fuentes <ofv@wanadoo.es>
> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 02:04:27 +0200
> 
> I'll suggest to use different branches for every port (including MS
> Windows).

IMNSHO, this is a bad idea.  Its only sure consequence will be
divergence and bitrot of code, at least for MS Windows, because none
of the people who care about that port have time to invest on merges.
(FWIW, I don't see anything different on the NS side, but maybe I'm
mistaken.)  Given our style of committing changes to the master
repository, which involves almost no discussions, let alone formal
peer review before the commit, which would involve explaining the
rationale for the changes needed to consider whether to merge or not,
and given the sheer rate of commits, this divergence will be fast and
cruel.

> This way you can avoid most part of the #ifdef crazyness, keeping
> the code much cleaner and responsability divisions better defined.
> 
> A consequence of this would be to have to distribute several source
> tarballs (one per port) instead of just a monolithic one, but I think it
> is a lesser price to pay.

The real price to pay will be the bugs we miss on each separate
platform, which are only revealed on the other, due to a different
compiler/library/environment/memory arrangement/whatever.  How many
times in the past bugs in the Emacs code were found on Windows (or
even in the MS-DOS port)?  Segregate the ports, and you will lose all
that.  In effect, the project will be split into several ones that
hardly ever communicate.

At some time in the past, developers understood very well the value of
the diversity for the quality of their packages.  I lament that time.




  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-30  3:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-12  4:06 Emacs on OS X development Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-12  7:23 ` Rasmus
2011-09-12  7:59   ` Glenn Morris
2011-09-13 16:37 ` Adrian Robert
2011-09-13 17:51   ` John Wiegley
2011-09-13 18:27     ` Glenn Morris
2011-09-13 18:43       ` John Wiegley
2011-09-13 18:56         ` Glenn Morris
2011-09-13 19:19           ` David Reitter
2011-09-14  1:13         ` Leo
2011-09-14  1:31           ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-13  0:23             ` John Wiegley
2012-07-13  0:57               ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-13  1:18                 ` chad
2012-07-13  1:07               ` chad
2012-07-13  3:12                 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-20 13:51                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-07-21  9:40                   ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-21 14:02                     ` Michael Albinus
2012-07-24  6:39                       ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-25 13:11                         ` Michael Albinus
2012-07-21 16:53                     ` chad
2012-07-24 13:04                       ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-24 14:45                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-07-25  3:00                           ` John Wiegley
2012-07-25 14:41                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-07-26 22:58                               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-29 17:58                                 ` Donald Curtis
2012-07-29 22:31                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-07-30  0:04                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-07-30  3:25                                     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2012-07-30  4:48                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-07-30  5:06                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-30 22:40                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-30 23:01                                         ` Paul Eggert
2012-07-31  1:38                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-07-31 13:50                                         ` Nix
2012-07-31 15:58                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-08-02  5:16                                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-08-03 21:15                                     ` Dave Abrahams
2012-07-31 18:31                               ` Adrian Robert
2012-08-03 20:08                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-08-03 20:28                                   ` Adrian Robert
2012-08-05 12:51                                     ` Jan Djärv
2012-12-21 17:20                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-23 14:50                                         ` Jan Djärv
2012-12-24  0:23                                           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-12-24 10:22                                             ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-25  7:17                         ` chad
2012-07-27 12:17                           ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-22  9:31                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-22 22:16                       ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-23  7:26                         ` Ivan Andrus
2012-07-23  8:46                         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-23 13:52                           ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-23 19:45                       ` John Wiegley
2012-07-23 20:11                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-23 23:12                           ` John Wiegley
2012-07-23 20:20                         ` Paul Eggert
2012-07-23 23:13                           ` John Wiegley
2012-07-23 20:46                         ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-23 21:17                           ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-23 21:28                             ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-23 23:26                               ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-24  6:25                                 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-24  8:36                                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-25  7:27                                     ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-25  8:15                                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-24  9:01                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-25  7:38                                     ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-24 16:09                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-25  7:43                                     ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-23 23:15                           ` John Wiegley
2012-07-23 23:40                             ` chad
2012-07-23 21:45                         ` chad
2012-07-23 23:00                           ` John Wiegley
2012-07-24  1:13                           ` Leo
2012-07-23 18:57                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-07-13  3:28               ` Le Wang
2012-07-13 10:02               ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-13 10:45                 ` Ivan Andrus
2012-07-14  8:39                   ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-13 12:09               ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-13 14:00                 ` René Kyllingstad
2012-07-13 17:48                   ` John Wiegley
2012-07-13 18:16                     ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-13 19:07                       ` Glenn Morris
2012-07-13 19:54                       ` John Wiegley
2012-07-13 20:12                         ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-13 20:32                           ` Ivan Andrus
2012-07-13 21:04                           ` John Wiegley
2012-07-13 21:44                             ` chad
2012-07-13 22:30                               ` John Wiegley
2012-07-14 10:35                               ` Sudish Joseph
2012-07-14  9:00                         ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-14 22:56                           ` John Wiegley
2012-07-15  0:54                             ` Chong Yidong
2012-07-15  2:45                               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-15  3:40                               ` John Wiegley
2012-07-15 13:12                                 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-15 17:50                                   ` chad
2012-07-15 21:20                                     ` Donald Curtis
2012-07-15 21:34                                     ` Donald Curtis
2012-07-15 22:11                                       ` chad
2012-07-15 22:22                                       ` David Reitter
2012-07-18  0:16                                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-18  2:56                                         ` John Wiegley
2012-07-18  3:42                                           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-18  8:21                                             ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-18 20:43                                             ` Donald Curtis
2012-07-18 21:03                                               ` chad
2012-07-19  8:12                                               ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-18 17:19                                         ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-19 13:31                                           ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-15 22:19                               ` David Reitter
2012-07-16  2:20                             ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-17 10:18                               ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-17 12:14                                 ` William Stevenson
2012-07-15 21:52                         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-13 17:48                 ` John Wiegley
2011-09-14  2:21           ` chad
2011-09-14  3:00             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-14 12:54           ` Jan D.
2011-09-13 19:51   ` Jan Djärv
2011-09-13 19:57     ` Adrian Robert
2011-09-13 20:33       ` Jan Djärv
2011-09-13 20:05   ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-13 21:47     ` John Wiegley
2011-09-14  1:59       ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-14  2:09         ` John Wiegley
2011-09-14 14:10           ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-14 14:30             ` Stephen Eilert
2011-09-14 18:06               ` Glenn Morris
2011-09-15  4:11               ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-13  1:14             ` Samuel Bronson

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