From: Donald Curtis <dcurtis@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs on OS X development
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 16:34:06 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5ACE24AD-E349-49ED-B737-885773069F1E@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B2AE3904-6766-41BB-96EA-C50EEB4E6057@gmail.com>
I have found that there are problems using the current ns version over screen sharing (input to the GUI fails). I have also noticed that when doing HTTP connections, things tended to get stuck on the ns-port until I gave some keyboard or mouse input over the GUI.
All of these issues have been reported but I now use the Mac port and am much happier. My only complaint is that now that Yamamoto has included the GUI animation stuff, it triggers my discrete GPU on my laptop, something I would like it to not do.
Anyways, my point want to commend the work and put in my vote for the mac version. I guess the only thing I can do is attempt to try an merge in the changes, but it sounds like people more educated on the matter myself have tried and failed.
It seems like merging the two may be worse though, possibly what we need is a special branch, one that is supported by the project?
And interested parties should get their "copyright / permission" forms faxed in ;)
DC
On Jul 15, 2012, at 12:50 PM, chad wrote:
>
> On Jul 15, 2012, at 6:12 AM, Paul Michael Reilly wrote:
>>
>> And I concur. Perhaps someone can explain to me the downside of having Yamamoto place his tree as a sibling to the ns tree. [...]
>>
>> That said, I use the ns tree daily and love it. [...]
>
> This, I think, is the practical problem we keep running into. The mac port has never integrated with the development head well (in the 2+ years I've been watching), and it doesn't look like it will live next to the ns port without significant effort. On the flip side, while some people seem to have a much better experience with the mac port than the ns port, others (including myself) have the opposite experience.
>
> Right now, we're the closest we've ever been to being able to try the mac port code with the current emacs (not the last release, but the current code), and from what I'm hearing 2-4 people have made small attempts at integrating the two and failed. I'm sure that a dedicated effort would succeed, but it won't be trivial, and it might not even be easy. This really seems like a place where arguing pre-code is not very helpful - let's get a working dev+mac tree somewhere, and then figure out what to do with them.
>
> Hopefully this isn't making things worse,
> *Chad
>
>
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Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-09-12 4:06 Emacs on OS X development Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-12 7:23 ` Rasmus
2011-09-12 7:59 ` Glenn Morris
2011-09-13 16:37 ` Adrian Robert
2011-09-13 17:51 ` John Wiegley
2011-09-13 18:27 ` Glenn Morris
2011-09-13 18:43 ` John Wiegley
2011-09-13 18:56 ` Glenn Morris
2011-09-13 19:19 ` David Reitter
2011-09-14 1:13 ` Leo
2011-09-14 1:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-13 0:23 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-13 0:57 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-13 1:18 ` chad
2012-07-13 1:07 ` chad
2012-07-13 3:12 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-20 13:51 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-07-21 9:40 ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-21 14:02 ` Michael Albinus
2012-07-24 6:39 ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-25 13:11 ` Michael Albinus
2012-07-21 16:53 ` chad
2012-07-24 13:04 ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-24 14:45 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-07-25 3:00 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-25 14:41 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-07-26 22:58 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-29 17:58 ` Donald Curtis
2012-07-29 22:31 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-07-30 0:04 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-07-30 3:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-30 4:48 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-07-30 5:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-30 22:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-30 23:01 ` Paul Eggert
2012-07-31 1:38 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-07-31 13:50 ` Nix
2012-07-31 15:58 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-08-02 5:16 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-08-03 21:15 ` Dave Abrahams
2012-07-31 18:31 ` Adrian Robert
2012-08-03 20:08 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-08-03 20:28 ` Adrian Robert
2012-08-05 12:51 ` Jan Djärv
2012-12-21 17:20 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-23 14:50 ` Jan Djärv
2012-12-24 0:23 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-12-24 10:22 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-25 7:17 ` chad
2012-07-27 12:17 ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-22 9:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-22 22:16 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-23 7:26 ` Ivan Andrus
2012-07-23 8:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-23 13:52 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-23 19:45 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-23 20:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-23 23:12 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-23 20:20 ` Paul Eggert
2012-07-23 23:13 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-23 20:46 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-23 21:17 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-23 21:28 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-23 23:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-24 6:25 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-24 8:36 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-25 7:27 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-25 8:15 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-24 9:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-25 7:38 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-24 16:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-25 7:43 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-23 23:15 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-23 23:40 ` chad
2012-07-23 21:45 ` chad
2012-07-23 23:00 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-24 1:13 ` Leo
2012-07-23 18:57 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-07-13 3:28 ` Le Wang
2012-07-13 10:02 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-13 10:45 ` Ivan Andrus
2012-07-14 8:39 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-13 12:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-13 14:00 ` René Kyllingstad
2012-07-13 17:48 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-13 18:16 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-13 19:07 ` Glenn Morris
2012-07-13 19:54 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-13 20:12 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-13 20:32 ` Ivan Andrus
2012-07-13 21:04 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-13 21:44 ` chad
2012-07-13 22:30 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-14 10:35 ` Sudish Joseph
2012-07-14 9:00 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-14 22:56 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-15 0:54 ` Chong Yidong
2012-07-15 2:45 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-15 3:40 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-15 13:12 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-15 17:50 ` chad
2012-07-15 21:20 ` Donald Curtis
2012-07-15 21:34 ` Donald Curtis [this message]
2012-07-15 22:11 ` chad
2012-07-15 22:22 ` David Reitter
2012-07-18 0:16 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-18 2:56 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-18 3:42 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-18 8:21 ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-18 20:43 ` Donald Curtis
2012-07-18 21:03 ` chad
2012-07-19 8:12 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-18 17:19 ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-19 13:31 ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-15 22:19 ` David Reitter
2012-07-16 2:20 ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-17 10:18 ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-17 12:14 ` William Stevenson
2012-07-15 21:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-13 17:48 ` John Wiegley
2011-09-14 2:21 ` chad
2011-09-14 3:00 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-14 12:54 ` Jan D.
2011-09-13 19:51 ` Jan Djärv
2011-09-13 19:57 ` Adrian Robert
2011-09-13 20:33 ` Jan Djärv
2011-09-13 20:05 ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-13 21:47 ` John Wiegley
2011-09-14 1:59 ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-14 2:09 ` John Wiegley
2011-09-14 14:10 ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-14 14:30 ` Stephen Eilert
2011-09-14 18:06 ` Glenn Morris
2011-09-15 4:11 ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-13 1:14 ` Samuel Bronson
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