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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Mathieu Lirzin <mthl@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs?
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 18:30:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <837fheuu6a.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vb4zb0i4.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Mathieu Lirzin on Mon, 07 Mar 2016 01:22:11 +0100)

> From: Mathieu Lirzin <mthl@gnu.org>
> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 01:22:11 +0100
> Cc: 21998@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> 
> In my short experience, Change Logs has generally been useful both when
> reading and composing them.  When writing them it helps me structure
> large changes in logical commits that are modelled by the Change Log
> format.  Finally It helps me being precise in my wordings which is not
> trivial for non-native english speakers.
> 
> On a more spiritual side, I think they belong to the zen of contributing
> to a GNU project.  :)

I agree completely.  Writing a log entry in ChangeLog format is an
excellent opportunity for reflecting on the changeset, for summarizing
its intent and final shape, and for making sure nothing was left out.
Writing those entries teaches one discipline, the ability to describe
your changes in just enough detail, and facilitates communications
between members of the development team.  And in loose teams such as
ours, good communications are everything.

As told many times in past discussions, ChangeLog files are also an
excellent first tool for forensics, easy to search with many available
tools.  It is invaluable when you don't have access to the repository,
and a good asset even if you do: traversing the history of a complex
Git repo without missing commits on branches is not a trivial task, it
requires using non-default switches and some rarely used commands and
options.  Even when you do use Git tools, ChangeLog frequently
provides additional important evidence.

So removing ChangeLog files will be a bad blow to our ability to
easily and conveniently research the past, something that is extremely
important in a project with such a rich history, where it's all too
easy to reintroduce a bug if you don't look hard enough at the history
of some code fragment.

People are saying it's an extra barrier to contributing.  That is
true, but so is understanding the Emacs internals, code conventions,
organization of the documentation system, its auxiliary files (like
CONTRIBUTE, NEWS, DEBUG, PROBLEMS, etc.), the release process, and a
few more things.  Having to write ChangeLog entries is an
insignificant addition to the body of knowledge a contributor needs to
master, there's no way around that.  Nor should there be: without
knowing this stuff, you cannot be a useful contributor anyway, as your
contributions will need too much attention from the veterans, who then
will be unable to make more significant contributions due to lack of
time.  We need here contributors who know enough to work on their own
with minimal guidance, who can be trusted to do a good job that
doesn't need to be reviewed too deeply, whose design can be trusted to
be in line with the Emacsy way of doing things.  How can one raise to
this position without learning a lot of project-specific stuff?  You
can't.

Writing ChangeLog entries is just one small part of that.  It's no
accident that people who don't want ChangeLog files more often than
not don't want to write detailed commit log messages, either, and many
times don't know how to write good documentation.  Do we want to
dispense with these as well?  If we drop the ChangeLog files, there's
no way we can explain why we ask for commit log messages in ChangeLog
format, so the next logical step is to drop that as well, and we will
then lose valuable information.  We already are firmly on that path.

Other prominent GNU projects that maintain ChangeLog files in the
repository include GCC, Binutils, GDB, glibc, and Texinfo.  XEmacs
also has it.  Why should Emacs be the first one to plunge into this
adventure?  Why not let others try that first, so that we could later
learn from their mistakes?  We have more important things to do than
waste our scarce resources on side issues, and too few people to do
them.

Let's reinstate the ChangeLog files.  Maintaining them is a negligible
cost; many other projects do that and don't have any trouble.  Unlike
what some people say, merge conflicts in ChangeLog files are very
rare, once you install git-merge-changelog.  We have some important
infrastructure based on ChangeLog files that will become extinct
without them, something that people tend to forget.  We tried to live
without these files for a year; that experiment failed miserably.
It's time to admit that, and fix the mistake we made.



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2016-03-06 21:52               ` Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? (Was: bug#21998: Run 'make change-history' on release branch) John Wiegley
2016-03-06 22:05                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2016-03-08 11:11                   ` Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? Uwe Brauer
2016-03-08 14:43                     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-08 14:58                       ` Uwe Brauer
2016-03-08 15:16                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-08 16:13                         ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-08 16:17                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-08 19:21                       ` ChangeLog to *VC-log* (was: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs?) Stephen Berman
2016-03-08 22:26                         ` ChangeLog to *VC-log* Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-08 23:07                           ` Stephen Berman
2016-03-08 23:11                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-09 19:30                               ` Stephen Berman
2016-03-09 19:33                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-09 20:00                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-09 23:01                                   ` Stephen Berman
2016-03-10  6:26                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-10 12:59                                       ` Stephen Berman
2016-03-10 13:13                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-10  7:16                                 ` Xue Fuqiao
2016-03-10 12:59                                   ` Stephen Berman
2016-03-09  2:01                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-06 22:34                 ` Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? (Was: bug#21998: Run 'make change-history' on release branch) Paul Eggert
2016-03-07 16:26                   ` bug#21998: " Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-06 23:06                 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-07  0:15                   ` Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? John Wiegley
2016-03-07  0:24                     ` Drew Adams
2016-03-07 16:28                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-07 16:31                       ` John Wiegley
2016-03-07 16:57                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-07 20:46                       ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-03-07 21:04                         ` Eric S. Raymond
2016-03-07 21:14                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-07 21:10                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-07 21:15                           ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-03-07 21:23                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-07 21:28                               ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-03-08  3:38                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-08  5:00                                   ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-03-08 15:59                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-08 16:12                                       ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-03-08 16:26                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-08 16:44                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-07 21:32                               ` Karl Fogel
2016-03-07 21:19                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-07 21:43                           ` Karl Fogel
2016-03-07 22:01                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-07 22:24                               ` Karl Fogel
2016-03-07 22:45                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-07 22:47                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-07 23:24                                   ` Karl Fogel
2016-03-08  1:25                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-08 15:21                                 ` Andy Moreton
2016-03-08 16:21                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-08 15:48                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-07 21:30                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-08  3:41                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-08 16:54                           ` John Wiegley
2016-03-08 17:18                             ` Karl Fogel
2016-03-08 17:21                               ` John Wiegley
2016-03-08 17:35                                 ` Karl Fogel
2016-03-08 17:40                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-08 18:19                                   ` Karl Fogel
2016-03-08 19:03                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-08 20:28                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-08 20:37                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-08 21:25                                 ` Ingo Lohmar
2016-03-08 21:36                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-09 19:32                                     ` Ingo Lohmar
2016-03-09 20:06                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-09 20:22                                         ` Ingo Lohmar
2016-03-09 20:48                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-10 21:21                                         ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-09  3:46                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-09  6:41                                     ` John Wiegley
2016-03-09 15:53                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-09 16:41                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-09 18:09                                         ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-09 18:18                                           ` Karl Fogel
2016-03-09 18:32                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-09 19:36                                               ` Karl Fogel
2016-03-09 20:21                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-09 20:42                                                   ` Karl Fogel
2016-03-09 20:59                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-09 23:03                                                   ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-03-09 23:39                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-10  6:47                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-10 21:23                                           ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-11  1:51                                             ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-11  8:48                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-11 17:17                                               ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-03-11 18:03                                                 ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-11 18:28                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-11 19:53                                                   ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-03-11 20:04                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-11 20:08                                                       ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-03-11 20:33                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-12  3:32                                                           ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-03-12  7:47                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-13 21:43                                                               ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-03-14  3:33                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-14 14:56                                                                   ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-03-14 17:09                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-11 22:37                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-12  3:33                                                   ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-03-12 19:26                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-12 21:08                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-12 22:10                                                       ` John Wiegley
2016-03-12 22:33                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-13 15:53                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-13 16:05                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-13 17:16                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-13 17:22                                                                 ` Yuri Khan
2016-03-13 17:30                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-13 17:42                                                                     ` Yuri Khan
2016-03-13 18:09                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-13 17:16                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-13 17:52                                                             ` David Caldwell
2016-03-09 16:41                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-09 18:24                                         ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-09 18:41                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-09 19:10                                             ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-09 19:20                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-09 19:51                                     ` Ingo Lohmar
2016-03-09 20:30                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-09 20:50                                         ` Ingo Lohmar
2016-03-09 21:03                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-08  3:30                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-08  5:33                           ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-03-08  6:39                             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-03-08 16:08                               ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-03-08 16:43                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-09  0:47                                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-03-08 14:38                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-07  0:22                 ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-03-07  1:19                   ` bug#21998: " Eric S. Raymond
2016-03-07 16:30                   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-03-07 16:33                     ` John Wiegley
2016-03-07 16:58                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-07 17:16                         ` Should we restore manually maintained ChangeLogs (was: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs?) John Wiegley
2016-03-07 17:42                           ` Should we restore manually maintained ChangeLogs Karl Fogel
2016-03-07 17:50                           ` Should we restore manually maintained ChangeLogs (was: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs?) Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-07 19:02                             ` Should we restore manually maintained ChangeLogs Paul Eggert
2016-03-07 21:06                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-07 21:42                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-08 15:45                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-08 16:14                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-08 16:46                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-08 16:34                                     ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-08 17:05                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-09  1:08                                         ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-09  3:47                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-08 17:44                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-08 18:02                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-08 18:11                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-07 23:31                                 ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-08 14:03                                   ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-03-08 15:15                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-08 16:19                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-08 16:31                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-08 16:15                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-08 15:50                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-09  7:58                                     ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-09 13:19                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-09 16:10                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-09 18:39                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-09 18:49                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-09 17:42                                         ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-09 18:01                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-09 18:10                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-09 19:09                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-09 19:34                                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-09 19:42                                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2016-03-09 23:39                                                     ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-03-09 21:25                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-09 23:08                                                 ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-03-09 23:43                                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2016-03-10  6:49                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-10  9:05                                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2016-03-10  9:44                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-10 10:00                                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2016-03-10 10:34                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-10 11:49                                                               ` Sven Axelsson
2016-03-10 13:08                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-10 13:14                                                                   ` Evgeny Panasyuk
2016-03-10 13:25                                                                     ` Sven Axelsson
2016-03-10 13:43                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-13  4:04                                                                         ` John Wiegley
2016-03-13 16:08                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-10 15:03                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-10 16:01                                                                   ` Sven Axelsson
2016-03-10 16:34                                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-10 17:17                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-10 17:32                                                                       ` Yuri Khan
2016-03-10 17:39                                                                       ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-10 18:50                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-10 19:09                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-09 23:30                                                 ` Noam Postavsky
2016-03-10 13:03                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-13  4:06                                                 ` John Wiegley
2016-03-09 18:10                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-09 18:55                                             ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-09 19:14                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-09 19:26                                                 ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-09 19:57                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-10  1:32                                                     ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-10  6:55                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-10 16:41                                                         ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-10 17:20                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-10 17:39                                                           ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2016-03-09 16:04                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-09 18:16                                         ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-09 18:27                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-09 18:34                                             ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-09 18:39                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-09 18:55                                                 ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-09 18:44                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-07 18:05                           ` Andy Moreton
2016-03-07 23:05                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-07 18:07                     ` Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-07 18:13                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-07 20:59                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-07 21:10                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-07 21:18                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-07 21:29                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-07 21:56                                 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-07 22:19                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-08  3:45                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-08  4:34                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-08  6:16                                         ` David Engster
2016-03-08 13:53                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-08 17:16                                             ` David Engster
2016-03-08 20:09                                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-08 15:58                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-08 20:00                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-08  3:44                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-08  3:25                                 ` Code reviews (was: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs?) Stefan Monnier
2016-03-08  4:15                                   ` Code reviews Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-08  5:30                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-08  8:48                                   ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-08 12:09                                     ` Yuri Khan
2016-03-08 13:27                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-09 15:06                                       ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-08 16:09                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-09 15:09                                       ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-10 10:16                                     ` Andreas Röhler
2016-03-08 15:54                                   ` Code reviews (was: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs?) Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-08 16:21                                     ` Code reviews Stefan Monnier
2016-03-08 16:51                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-08  3:39                                 ` Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-08  4:23                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-08 15:57                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-08 16:39                                       ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-03-08 19:57                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-08 20:56                                         ` David Caldwell
2016-03-08 21:16                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-08 21:23                                             ` John Wiegley
2016-03-08 21:26                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-08 21:59                                               ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2016-03-08 21:27                                             ` David Caldwell
2016-03-08 21:37                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-08 21:33                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-07 20:58                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-07  9:29                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-08  3:01                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-07 16:24                 ` Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? (Was: bug#21998: Run 'make change-history' on release branch) Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-07 16:29                   ` Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? John Wiegley
2016-03-07 16:53                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-09 18:52                   ` Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? (Was: bug#21998: Run 'make change-history' on release branch) Yuri Khan
2016-03-09 19:10                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-09 19:18                       ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-09 19:53                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-09 23:22                           ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-10  6:36                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-10  9:14                               ` Yuri Khan
2016-03-10  9:46                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-13 20:06                               ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-08  2:59                 ` Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? Stefan Monnier
2016-03-08  3:41                   ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-03-08  3:48                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-08  4:02                     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-08  6:51                       ` Paul Eggert
2016-07-06 14:20                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-06 15:08                   ` Robert Weiner
2016-07-06 15:17                     ` Noam Postavsky
2016-07-07 21:56                     ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-06 15:36                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-06 16:06                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-06 16:36                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-06 17:03                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-06 17:23                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-06 17:44                             ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-07-06 18:32                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-06 19:16                                 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-07-07  2:32                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-06 17:39                           ` John Wiegley
2016-07-07  1:18                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-07  2:44                               ` John Wiegley
2016-07-07  7:31                                 ` Paul Eggert
2016-07-07 13:18                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-07 14:26                                     ` Paul Eggert
2016-07-07 14:49                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-07 15:39                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-07-08 13:38                                         ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-08 14:02                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-07-08 14:15                                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-07-08 14:24                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-08 15:07                                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-07-08 15:25                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-08 22:58                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-08 23:29                                                     ` John Wiegley
2016-07-08 23:39                                                       ` vc-region-history, was: " Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-09  7:03                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-09 13:29                                                           ` Kaushal Modi
2016-07-09  7:00                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-09 23:04                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-10  2:42                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-09 15:19                                                 ` Tino Calancha
2016-07-09 16:59                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-10 14:21                                             ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-07 22:02                               ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-07 21:57                           ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-06 17:41                       ` Paul Eggert
2016-07-07 11:29                         ` Phillip Lord
2016-07-07 12:43                           ` Noam Postavsky
2016-07-07 12:55                             ` Phillip Lord
2016-07-07 13:04                               ` Andreas Schwab
2016-07-07 16:24                                 ` Phillip Lord
2016-07-07 13:15                               ` Noam Postavsky
2016-07-07 16:28                                 ` Phillip Lord
2016-07-07 15:25                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-07 17:24                             ` Phillip Lord
2016-07-07 19:57                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-07 23:50                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-08 11:28                                 ` Phillip Lord
2016-07-08 13:56                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-08 13:27                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-08 14:06                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-08 14:22                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-08 14:29                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-08 14:49                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-08 15:18                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-08 16:04                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-08 14:29                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-07-08 14:13                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-07-08 14:27                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-09 16:54                                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-09 17:04                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-09 22:55                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-10 14:25                                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-11 13:28                                         ` auto-generating skeleton ChangeLogs (was: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs?) Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-12 13:49                                           ` auto-generating skeleton ChangeLogs Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-13  3:29                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-11 11:29                                     ` Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? Phillip Lord
2016-07-12  5:08                                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-20 13:28                                   ` debbugs tracker builds character (was: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs?) Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-20 13:44                                     ` debbugs tracker builds character Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-07-20 13:52                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-20 14:58                                         ` Michael Albinus
2016-07-20 19:05                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-20 19:48                                             ` Michael Albinus
2016-07-20 20:06                                               ` Robert Weiner
2016-07-20 20:24                                                 ` Michael Albinus
2016-07-21 10:54                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-07-22 10:50                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-07-20 20:38                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-21  6:27                                                 ` Michael Albinus
2016-07-21 11:03                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-21 12:42                                                     ` Michael Albinus
2016-07-21 12:46                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-21 13:02                                                         ` Michael Albinus
2016-07-20 14:53                                     ` Michael Albinus
2016-07-20 14:57                                       ` Robert Weiner
2016-07-20 18:48                                         ` Michael Albinus
2016-07-21 14:13                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-21 14:50                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-21 15:17                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-21 15:41                                                 ` David Engster
2016-07-21 15:58                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-21 23:49                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-21 23:54                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-22 14:35                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-23 19:54                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-25 12:52                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-25 16:51                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-26 14:22                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-21 15:38                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-21 16:42                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-21 20:11                                               ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-07-22 10:50                                                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-07-22 19:17                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-23 16:18                                                   ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-07-23 17:35                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-23 23:07                                                       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-07-24 16:21                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-24 21:20                                                           ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-07-24 21:40                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-24 23:04                                                               ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-03-13  0:22                                                                 ` [ELPA] I regret using subtree (was: debbugs tracker builds character) Eric Abrahamsen
2017-03-13  0:53                                                                   ` [ELPA] I regret using subtree Stefan Monnier
2017-03-13  2:18                                                                     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-03-13 10:01                                                                       ` Tino Calancha
2017-03-13 13:46                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-13 14:30                                                                           ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-13 14:34                                                                             ` Tino Calancha
2017-03-13  7:06                                                                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2017-03-13  7:49                                                                     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-07-20 15:31                                       ` debbugs tracker builds character Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-20 16:56                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-20 17:54                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-20 19:03                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-20 20:40                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-20 19:30                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-20 20:43                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-21 10:37                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-07-21 12:23                                                 ` Michael Albinus
2016-07-21 12:37                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-07-21 12:46                                                     ` Michael Albinus
2016-07-22 10:18                                                     ` Michael Albinus
2016-07-22 10:21                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-07-22 11:47                                                       ` Michael Albinus
2016-07-31  9:42                                                       ` Michael Albinus
2016-07-21 21:39                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-21 21:51                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-21  5:50                                           ` Christian Kruse
2016-07-20 19:34                                         ` Michael Albinus
2016-07-20 21:25                                       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-07-21 10:41                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-07-21 12:33                                           ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-07-21 12:34                                           ` Michael Albinus
2016-07-07 12:46                   ` Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? Alan Mackenzie
2016-07-07 13:01                     ` Phillip Lord
2016-07-07 13:57                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-07-07 16:39                         ` Phillip Lord
2016-07-07 21:56                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-08 12:16                     ` Phillip Lord
2016-07-09 16:55                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-13  6:45                         ` Andreas Röhler
2016-07-13 12:37                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-13 13:12                           ` Robert Weiner
2016-07-13 13:43                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-13 14:17                               ` Robert Weiner
2016-07-13 15:15                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-13 14:56                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-13 15:33                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-13 15:36                               ` Robert Weiner
2016-07-13 15:47                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-13 16:54                                   ` Robert Weiner
2016-07-13 16:59                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-13 17:47                                     ` Sven Axelsson
2016-07-14 11:56                             ` Phillip Lord
2016-07-14 15:15                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-15 15:09                               ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-14 16:05                           ` Richard Stallman

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