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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: John Yates <john@yates-sheets.org>
Cc: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Guidelines for the "symbol" syntax class
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 04:34:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5689DA1C.7000701@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJnXXojy1b6LUdXcC+cDVPYT-OJMXCE8m8yqObE9oUYwU_PGbg@mail.gmail.com>

On 01/04/2016 04:21 AM, John Yates wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 8:35 PM, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru
> <mailto:dgutov@yandex.ru>> wrote:
>  >
>  > => [:<=>, :==, :===, :eql?, :hash, :casecmp, :+, :*, :%, :[], :[]=,
> :insert, :length, :size, :bytesize, :empty?, ...]
>
> It seems similar to C++'s operator keyword.  Am I getting closer?  Is
> the colon required to abut the subsequent characters or can one write :
> <=> (note intervening space)?

No space allowed. See this usage example:

irb(main):003:0> "abc" == "def"
=> false
irb(main):004:0> String.instance_method(:==)
=> #<UnboundMethod: String#==>
irb(main):005:0> "abc".size
=> 3
irb(main):006:0> String.instance_method(:size)
=> #<UnboundMethod: String#size>
irb(main):007:0> "abc".method(:size)
=> #<Method: String#size>
irb(main):008:0> "abc".method(:size).call
=> 3

You can have Symbols with any name, though. So they are not tied to 
methods, variables or anything.

Here's a good explanation: 
http://www.randomhacks.net/2007/01/20/13-ways-of-looking-at-a-ruby-symbol/, 
in particular, comparison #6 rings true: Ruby Symbols are similar to 
Lisp symbols. In Lisp, one can reference a dynamically bound variable, 
or call a function, using a symbol:

(let ((sym 'car)) (funcall sym nil))

or even

(let ((sym 'car)) (funcall (symbol-function sym) nil))

which is similar to "abc".method(:size).call I've tried above.



      parent reply	other threads:[~2016-01-04  2:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-03  5:09 Guidelines for the "symbol" syntax class Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-03 22:56 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-04  0:46   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-04  0:51     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-04  0:58       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-04  1:13       ` John Yates
2016-01-04  1:18         ` Dmitry Gutov
     [not found]           ` <CAJnXXog5fO_h5UNnVR67EJtT+u7+G-BVMFV3FnJgK=weGj0m_w@mail.gmail.com>
2016-01-04  2:01             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-04  0:55     ` John Wiegley
2016-01-04  1:14       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-04  2:56         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-04  3:47           ` Dmitry Gutov
     [not found]     ` <CAJnXXogonsWpqadNpX0BijzoiztorYP1d=b31seBfvGVBwwT_Q@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]       ` <5689CC5C.4000408@yandex.ru>
     [not found]         ` <CAJnXXojy1b6LUdXcC+cDVPYT-OJMXCE8m8yqObE9oUYwU_PGbg@mail.gmail.com>
2016-01-04  2:34           ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]

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