From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Subject: Re: Guidelines for the "symbol" syntax class
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 03:14:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5689C77F.1030408@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2wprq88of.fsf@newartisans.com>
On 01/04/2016 02:55 AM, John Wiegley wrote:
> I suppose my informal guideline is to implement a strategy that works best for
> the mode you want to derive information from, and to not expect syntax classes
> to be a capable enough interface. I'd expect Ruby symbols to include ":",
> personally.
In c++-mode, `std::cout' is two separate symbols, so I'm going to follow
that model.
> A::B is the qualified name of a symbol
Yes, and methods have qualified names like A::B#foo or A::B.bar, but we
don't make `#' or `.' symbol constituents.
> -- although "B" is
> technically an unqualified symbol in its own right within that qualified name.
Yup. "B" is the name of a constant set on the module/class A. This is
relevant because we can reference A::B from code lexically inside A (or
even inside A::C) by its base name (B). And it's impossible to know
whether the referenced constant (classes are constants, BTW) is B, A::B
or A::C::B without runtime information, or parsing the whole project and
its dependencies.
> Better yet, define a more general API that all modes can use, since many modes
> struggle with these same issues (imenu, thing-at-pt, dabbrev, etc). This
> echoes back to our long IDE thread.
Ouch. We do need to release 25.1 sometime. And I want
xref-find-references to work okay-ish in ruby-mode by then.
There *are* some variables already in Emacs that I might have to use,
and maybe I'm missing some of them. E.g.
dabbrev-abbrev-skip-leading-regexp and find-tag-default-function (should
xref-collect-references use find-tag-default-function?).
> Perhaps we need layered, semantically-
> defined classes, such that a given text position might occur within many such
> layers (for example, selection might choose B, A::B, or A::B.foo, depending on
> how many times I smash the "select current" key).
easy-kill defines a hierarchy of things (though a simplistic one), which
works like you describe. How to apply that idea to dabbrev-expand and
xref-find-references is not immediately obvious to me.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-01-04 1:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-01-03 5:09 Guidelines for the "symbol" syntax class Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-03 22:56 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-04 0:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-04 0:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-04 0:58 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-04 1:13 ` John Yates
2016-01-04 1:18 ` Dmitry Gutov
[not found] ` <CAJnXXog5fO_h5UNnVR67EJtT+u7+G-BVMFV3FnJgK=weGj0m_w@mail.gmail.com>
2016-01-04 2:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-04 0:55 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-04 1:14 ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2016-01-04 2:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-04 3:47 ` Dmitry Gutov
[not found] ` <CAJnXXogonsWpqadNpX0BijzoiztorYP1d=b31seBfvGVBwwT_Q@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <5689CC5C.4000408@yandex.ru>
[not found] ` <CAJnXXojy1b6LUdXcC+cDVPYT-OJMXCE8m8yqObE9oUYwU_PGbg@mail.gmail.com>
2016-01-04 2:34 ` Dmitry Gutov
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