From: "Andreas Röhler" <andreas.roehler@online.de>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Cc: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Plan for inquiries about Emacs changes
Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 08:37:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4eb0d4ed-cab9-9f12-c258-242edc3a02bd@online.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1jd4u1-0003BK-D4@fencepost.gnu.org>
On 25.05.20 06:39, Richard Stallman wrote:
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>
> Here's the method I propose for inquiries (we used to call them "polls")
> about users' views about possible changes in well-known behaviors.
> Any comments or suggestions?
>
>
> * Make a file for the replies to go into.
>
> * Make a mailing address which drops all mail into the file.
>
> * Write a inquiry statement which describes the proposed change in
> sufficient detail that people can judge it, what kind of information
> we seek, and where to email the response. Include a deadline for
> replies at least 6 weeks in the future.
>
> If possible, we should tell users how to select various behaviors, so
> that they can state their opinions based on comparing actual
> experiences.
>
> End the inquiry statement with the following text.
>
> We do not seek "votes", but rather understanding. If you are for
> the change, please explain why. Would it help you directly? If
> so, in what scenarios? How often, and how strongly, would it
> benefit you? What would the benefit be?
>
> Or is it that you think it will improve Emacs, or speed Emacs
> development, by helping other users? How so?
>
> Please distinguish between what you know and what you predict.
>
> Likewise, if you are against the change, please explain why.
> Would it inconvenience you directly? If so, in what scenarios?
> How often, and how strongly, would it inconvenience you? What
> would the inconvenience be?
>
> Or is it that you think it will harm Emacs or Emacs development by
> inconveniencing others? How so?
>
> We invite you also to propose alterations in the proposed change that
> you think would improve it -- saying in what scenario that would be an
> improvement, and how so, etc.
>
> Please post the URL of this page in forums where it is appropriate,
> and resend it to Emacs users and mailing lists where you know people
> will be glad to receive it.
>
> It is crucial to urge people repeatedly to explain their positions
> because there is a strong tendency for people not to bother.
>
> * Put the inquiry statement in a web page under gnu.org/software/emacs.
>
> * Mail the inquiry statement info-gnu-emacs, help-gnu-emacs and
> emacs-tangents, with the URL of the web page _and_ the full text
> of the inquiry statement.
>
> Also post a note referring to the web page on reddit.com/r/emacs, and
> any other suitable places. Mail the URL to Sacha Chua
> <sacha@sachachua.com>.
>
> * Wait until at least two weeks after the deadline, then study and
> record the responses. Note down all interesting comments, since they
> are the most important information in the responses.
>
> * Do count how many people support each position that people support,
> but it would be a mistake to make the actual decision based simply on
> counting. A given change can affect one user very often, and affect
> another user only rarely, but they could both state a "strong
> preference".
>
> * We are not compelled to choose between "make that change" and "no
> change". The best outcome of the inquiry is that the responses show
> us how to design a way to please almost all users, almost all the
> time, and not displease any user very much.
>
What about implementing in a way Python language did:
https://www.python.org/dev/peps
Thanks,
Andreas
prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-05-26 6:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-25 4:39 Plan for inquiries about Emacs changes Richard Stallman
2020-05-25 10:47 ` Bastien
2020-05-25 13:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-26 0:44 ` Tim Cross
2020-05-27 3:06 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-27 7:09 ` Tim Cross
2020-05-26 4:16 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-26 6:37 ` Andreas Röhler [this message]
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