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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Le Wang'" <l26wang@gmail.com>, "'Vitalie Spinu'" <spinuvit@gmail.com>
Cc: 'Leo Liu' <sdl.web@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: fix for bug 10994 breaks ido customizations in major way
Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 07:44:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <432AFE3B3321498E9B17075D3B55A60B@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM=K+irw4i8pHxBoiZC_wga8WSry=FyZfcWeO3d5ZHRui8HcVQ@mail.gmail.com>

> > (let ((t1 (propertize "aaa" 'aaa 12))
> >       (t2 (propertize "aaa" 'aaa 11)))
> >   (ido-completing-read "?: " (list t1 t2 "sfd")))
> >
> > works as expected. And the above patch breaks that.
> 
> That would be a horrible UI.  Luckily AFAICT, it hasn't happened.
> That's why I say there is no actual valid use-case for repeating the
> same string in completions.

I don't care much about Ido, so I don't have an opinion about the question at
hand.

However, I will say that it is NOT at all the case that there is nothing out
there, in the wild, that takes advantage of completion candidates that have the
same text (same string chars) but that have other differences, whether the
latter be text properties, symbol plists, associated files/buffers, associated
buffer positions or urls or other locations - or whatever.

Icicles is an example.  There are _loads_ of commands in Icicles that take
advantage of this.  And there are many different ways that the differences,
beyond the candidate text, can be communicated to users.  And there are
different ways that users can choose among such otherwise identical candidates.

The possibilities are too numerous to mention here.  Suffice it to say that,
yes, there are Emacs applications that take advantage of candidate strings (and
symbols) that have text (and symbol) properties.

And yes, there are also applications that take advantage of the fact that a
completion candidate can be a structure (typically an alist element that is a
cons), of which the displayed string is only one component.  Matching can
involve any number of such components, as can the value returned as the user's
completion choice.

FWIW, wrt removing duplicates (and duplication can be defined various ways in
different contexts, as just mentioned), Icicles lets you hit a key (`C-$')
during completion to toggle whether to remove duplicates (or to otherwise
transform the set of matching candidates, depending on the command and user
settings).

HTH.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-05-07 14:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-02 17:57 fix for bug 10994 breaks ido customizations in major way Le Wang
2013-05-03  4:13 ` Leo Liu
2013-05-03 12:49   ` Le Wang
2013-05-03 20:33     ` Leo Liu
2013-05-04  7:00       ` Le Wang
2013-05-04  8:58         ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-05-04 13:00           ` Le Wang
2013-05-05 10:57             ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-05-05 11:39               ` Leo Liu
2013-05-05 12:20                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-05-05 12:58                   ` Leo Liu
2013-05-05 13:38                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-05-05 14:31                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-05-05 15:26                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-05-06 15:11                           ` Le Wang
2013-05-06 22:49         ` Vitalie Spinu
2013-05-07  1:01           ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-05-07  9:35           ` Le Wang
2013-05-07 10:26             ` Vitalie Spinu
2013-05-07 10:35               ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-05-07 14:49                 ` Le Wang
2013-05-07 21:18                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-07 14:42               ` Le Wang
2013-05-07 14:44             ` Drew Adams [this message]
2013-05-07 14:47               ` Le Wang
2013-05-07 19:00                 ` Vitalie Spinu
2013-05-07 19:53                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-05-08  0:04                     ` Leo Liu
2013-05-08  0:35                       ` Le Wang
2013-05-08  3:10                         ` Leo Liu
2013-05-08  3:29                           ` Leo Liu
2013-05-08  4:49                             ` Leo Liu
2013-05-08  8:14                               ` Vitalie Spinu
2013-05-08  8:42                                 ` Leo Liu
2013-05-08 12:23                                   ` Le Wang
2013-05-08 14:29                                     ` Leo Liu
2013-05-08 20:56                                   ` Juri Linkov
2013-05-10  1:52                                     ` Leo Liu
2013-05-17  2:48                                     ` Leo Liu

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