* Tabs: Magically Growing Tabs?
@ 2019-10-16 14:01 T.V Raman
2019-10-16 14:20 ` T.V Raman
2019-10-16 18:28 ` Juri Linkov
0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: T.V Raman @ 2019-10-16 14:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
I run with two tabs --- one where I am doing work, the other where I
am reading an ebook, C-tab makes this a very nice workflow.
So now I have two tabs -- one called "Home" where I do work, one
called "EBooks" where I read. All is well for a few hours.
(length (tab-bar-tabs)) == 2
At some point, C-tab when in the Home tab switches to another tab
called "Home". When I investigate,
(length (tab-bar-tabs)) == 3 or greater ---
I've seen the above number grow as high as 7 depending on when I check
--and have to close the extra tabs using C-x t 0.
Unclear as to what interaction triggres the creation of these tabs.
Note: I cannot see, so it's not possible to catch when this happen by
eyeballing the tab-bar line -- I only notice when C-tab doesn't do
what I expect.
--
--
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* Re: Tabs: Magically Growing Tabs?
2019-10-16 14:01 Tabs: Magically Growing Tabs? T.V Raman
@ 2019-10-16 14:20 ` T.V Raman
2019-10-16 18:28 ` Juri Linkov
1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: T.V Raman @ 2019-10-16 14:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
"T.V Raman" <raman@google.com> writes:
Emacs was started last evening, had 2 tabs.
(emacs-uptime) =="14 hours, 0 minutes, 40 seconds"
Now, there are 11 tabs, here is the value of tab-bar-tabs.
Notice the multiple "Home" tabs.
((tab (name . "Home")
(explicit-name . t)
(time . 1571234497)
(wc . #<window-configuration>)
(ws ((min-height . 4)
(min-width . 10)
(min-height-ignore . 3)
(min-width-ignore . 2)
(min-height-safe . 1)
(min-width-safe . 2)
(min-pixel-height . 76)
(min-pixel-width . 80)
(min-pixel-height-ignore . 57)
(min-pixel-width-ignore . 16)
(min-pixel-height-safe . 19)
(min-pixel-width-safe . 16))
leaf
(pixel-width . 1912)
(pixel-height . 1024)
(total-width . 239)
(total-height . 53)
(normal-height . 1.0)
(normal-width . 1.0)
(buffer "Home"
(selected . t)
(hscroll . 0)
(fringes 0 0 nil nil)
(margins nil)
(scroll-bars nil 0 t nil 0 t nil)
(vscroll . 0)
(dedicated)
(point . 143)
(start . 1))
(prev-buffers ("*mail*" 1 972) ("Home" 1 143))))
(tab (name . "Home")
(explicit-name)
(time . 1571234554)
(wc . #<window-configuration>)
(ws ((min-height . 4)
(min-width . 10)
(min-height-ignore . 3)
(min-width-ignore . 2)
(min-height-safe . 1)
(min-width-safe . 2)
(min-pixel-height . 76)
(min-pixel-width . 80)
(min-pixel-height-ignore . 57)
(min-pixel-width-ignore . 16)
(min-pixel-height-safe . 19)
(min-pixel-width-safe . 16))
leaf
(pixel-width . 1912)
(pixel-height . 1024)
(total-width . 239)
(total-height . 54)
(normal-height . 1.0)
(normal-width . 1.0)
(buffer "Home"
(selected . t)
(hscroll . 0)
(fringes 0 0 nil nil)
(margins nil)
(scroll-bars nil 0 t nil 0 t nil)
(vscroll . 0)
(dedicated)
(point . 143)
(start . 1))
(prev-buffers ("Home" 1 143))))
(tab (name . "Home")
(explicit-name)
(time . 1571234584)
(wc . #<window-configuration>)
(ws ((min-height . 4)
(min-width . 10)
(min-height-ignore . 3)
(min-width-ignore . 2)
(min-height-safe . 1)
(min-width-safe . 2)
(min-pixel-height . 76)
(min-pixel-width . 80)
(min-pixel-height-ignore . 57)
(min-pixel-width-ignore . 16)
(min-pixel-height-safe . 19)
(min-pixel-width-safe . 16))
leaf
(pixel-width . 1912)
(pixel-height . 1024)
(total-width . 239)
(total-height . 54)
(normal-height . 1.0)
(normal-width . 1.0)
(buffer "Home"
(selected . t)
(hscroll . 0)
(fringes 0 0 nil nil)
(margins nil)
(scroll-bars nil 0 t nil 0 t nil)
(vscroll . 0)
(dedicated)
(point . 143)
(start . 1))
(prev-buffers ("Home" 1 143))))
(tab (name . "Business News - Latest Headlines on CNN Business - CNN")
(explicit-name)
(time . 1571234601)
(wc . #<window-configuration>)
(ws ((min-height . 4)
(min-width . 10)
(min-height-ignore . 3)
(min-width-ignore . 2)
(min-height-safe . 1)
(min-width-safe . 2)
(min-pixel-height . 76)
(min-pixel-width . 80)
(min-pixel-height-ignore . 57)
(min-pixel-width-ignore . 16)
(min-pixel-height-safe . 19)
(min-pixel-width-safe . 16))
leaf
(pixel-width . 1912)
(pixel-height . 1024)
(total-width . 239)
(total-height . 54)
(normal-height . 1.0)
(normal-width . 1.0)
(buffer "Business News - Latest Headlines on CNN Business - CNN"
(selected . t)
(hscroll . 0)
(fringes 0 0 nil nil)
(margins nil)
(scroll-bars nil 0 t nil 0 t nil)
(vscroll . 0)
(dedicated)
(point . 154)
(start . 1))
(prev-buffers ("Home" 1 143))))
(tab (name . "Business News - Latest Headlines on CNN Business - CNN")
(explicit-name)
(time . 1571234633)
(wc . #<window-configuration>)
(ws ((min-height . 4)
(min-width . 10)
(min-height-ignore . 3)
(min-width-ignore . 2)
(min-height-safe . 1)
(min-width-safe . 2)
(min-pixel-height . 76)
(min-pixel-width . 80)
(min-pixel-height-ignore . 57)
(min-pixel-width-ignore . 16)
(min-pixel-height-safe . 19)
(min-pixel-width-safe . 16))
leaf
(pixel-width . 1912)
(pixel-height . 1024)
(total-width . 239)
(total-height . 54)
(normal-height . 1.0)
(normal-width . 1.0)
(buffer "Business News - Latest Headlines on CNN Business - CNN"
(selected . t)
(hscroll . 0)
(fringes 0 0 nil nil)
(margins nil)
(scroll-bars nil 0 t nil 0 t nil)
(vscroll . 0)
(dedicated)
(point . 422)
(start . 1))
(prev-buffers ("Business News - Latest Headlines on CNN Business - CNN" 1
154))))
(tab (name . "Home")
(explicit-name)
(time . 1571234709)
(wc . #<window-configuration>)
(ws ((min-height . 4)
(min-width . 20)
(min-height-ignore . 4)
(min-width-ignore . 4)
(min-height-safe . 1)
(min-width-safe . 4)
(min-pixel-height . 76)
(min-pixel-width . 160)
(min-pixel-height-ignore . 76)
(min-pixel-width-ignore . 32)
(min-pixel-height-safe . 19)
(min-pixel-width-safe . 32))
hc
(pixel-width . 1912)
(pixel-height . 1024)
(total-width . 239)
(total-height . 54)
(normal-height . 1.0)
(normal-width . 1.0)
(combination-limit)
(leaf (pixel-width . 952)
(pixel-height . 1024)
(total-width . 119)
(total-height . 54)
(normal-height . 1.0)
(normal-width . 0.5)
(buffer "*Packages*"
(selected)
(hscroll . 0)
(fringes 0 0 nil nil)
(margins nil)
(scroll-bars nil 0 t nil 0 t nil)
(vscroll . 0)
(dedicated)
(point . 1)
(start . 1))
(prev-buffers ("Home" 1 143)))
(leaf (last . t)
(pixel-width . 960)
(pixel-height . 1024)
(total-width . 120)
(total-height . 54)
(normal-height . 1.0)
(normal-width . 0.5)
(buffer "Home"
(selected . t)
(hscroll . 0)
(fringes 0 0 nil nil)
(margins nil)
(scroll-bars nil 0 t nil 0 t nil)
(vscroll . 0)
(dedicated)
(point . 143)
(start . 1)))))
(tab (name . "Cricket news from ESPN Cricinfo.com")
(explicit-name)
(time . 1571234714)
(wc . #<window-configuration>)
(ws ((min-height . 4)
(min-width . 10)
(min-height-ignore . 3)
(min-width-ignore . 2)
(min-height-safe . 1)
(min-width-safe . 2)
(min-pixel-height . 76)
(min-pixel-width . 80)
(min-pixel-height-ignore . 57)
(min-pixel-width-ignore . 16)
(min-pixel-height-safe . 19)
(min-pixel-width-safe . 16))
leaf
(pixel-width . 1912)
(pixel-height . 1024)
(total-width . 239)
(total-height . 54)
(normal-height . 1.0)
(normal-width . 1.0)
(buffer "Cricket news from ESPN Cricinfo.com"
(selected . t)
(hscroll . 0)
(fringes 0 0 nil nil)
(margins nil)
(scroll-bars nil 0 t nil 0 t nil)
(vscroll . 0)
(dedicated)
(point . 174)
(start . 1))
(prev-buffers ("Home" 1 143))))
(tab (name . "Cricket news from ESPN Cricinfo.com")
(explicit-name)
(time . 1571234830)
(wc . #<window-configuration>)
(ws ((min-height . 4)
(min-width . 10)
(min-height-ignore . 3)
(min-width-ignore . 2)
(min-height-safe . 1)
(min-width-safe . 2)
(min-pixel-height . 76)
(min-pixel-width . 80)
(min-pixel-height-ignore . 57)
(min-pixel-width-ignore . 16)
(min-pixel-height-safe . 19)
(min-pixel-width-safe . 16))
leaf
(pixel-width . 1912)
(pixel-height . 1014)
(total-width . 239)
(total-height . 53)
(normal-height . 1.0)
(normal-width . 1.0)
(buffer "Cricket news from ESPN Cricinfo.com"
(selected . t)
(hscroll . 0)
(fringes 0 0 nil nil)
(margins nil)
(scroll-bars nil 0 t nil 0 t nil)
(vscroll . 0)
(dedicated)
(point . 1715)
(start . 1))
(prev-buffers ("Cricket news from ESPN Cricinfo.com" 1 174))))
(tab (name . "UnixToolTip")
(explicit-name)
(time . 1571234903)
(wc . #<window-configuration>)
(ws ((min-height . 4)
(min-width . 10)
(min-height-ignore . 2)
(min-width-ignore . 2)
(min-height-safe . 1)
(min-width-safe . 2)
(min-pixel-height . 76)
(min-pixel-width . 80)
(min-pixel-height-ignore . 38)
(min-pixel-width-ignore . 16)
(min-pixel-height-safe . 19)
(min-pixel-width-safe . 16))
leaf
(pixel-width . 1912)
(pixel-height . 1003)
(total-width . 239)
(total-height . 52)
(normal-height . 1.0)
(normal-width . 1.0)
(buffer "UnixToolTip"
(selected . t)
(hscroll . 0)
(fringes 0 0 nil nil)
(margins nil)
(scroll-bars nil 0 t nil 0 t nil)
(vscroll . 0)
(dedicated)
(point . 234)
(start . 1))
(prev-buffers ("(:home+@)" 1 1280) ("Home" 1 143))))
(current-tab (name . "Home") (explicit-name))
(tab (name . "MS")
(explicit-name . t)
(time . 1571233751)
(wc . #<window-configuration>)
(ws ((min-height . 4)
(min-width . 10)
(min-height-ignore . 4)
(min-width-ignore . 2)
(min-height-safe . 1)
(min-width-safe . 2)
(min-pixel-height . 76)
(min-pixel-width . 80)
(min-pixel-height-ignore . 76)
(min-pixel-width-ignore . 16)
(min-pixel-height-safe . 19)
(min-pixel-width-safe . 16))
leaf
(pixel-width . 1912)
(pixel-height . 1024)
(total-width . 239)
(total-height . 53)
(normal-height . 1.0)
(normal-width . 1.0)
(buffer "TAOUP"
(selected . t)
(hscroll . 0)
(fringes 0 0 nil nil)
(margins nil)
(scroll-bars nil 0 t nil 0 t nil)
(vscroll . 0)
(dedicated)
(point . 1898762)
(start . 1896950))
(prev-buffers ("TAOUP" 1
1)))))
> I run with two tabs --- one where I am doing work, the other where I
> am reading an ebook, C-tab makes this a very nice workflow.
>
> So now I have two tabs -- one called "Home" where I do work, one
> called "EBooks" where I read. All is well for a few hours.
> (length (tab-bar-tabs)) == 2
>
> At some point, C-tab when in the Home tab switches to another tab
> called "Home". When I investigate,
> (length (tab-bar-tabs)) == 3 or greater ---
> I've seen the above number grow as high as 7 depending on when I check
> --and have to close the extra tabs using C-x t 0.
>
> Unclear as to what interaction triggres the creation of these tabs.
>
> Note: I cannot see, so it's not possible to catch when this happen by
> eyeballing the tab-bar line -- I only notice when C-tab doesn't do
> what I expect.
>
> --
--
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Tabs: Magically Growing Tabs?
2019-10-16 14:01 Tabs: Magically Growing Tabs? T.V Raman
2019-10-16 14:20 ` T.V Raman
@ 2019-10-16 18:28 ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-16 18:33 ` T.V Raman
1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Juri Linkov @ 2019-10-16 18:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: T.V Raman; +Cc: emacs-devel
Sorry, I tried everything but can't reproduce the problem.
Some "Home" tabs have the property explicit-name equal to t,
but duplicates have no explicit-name.
Could you add auditory notifications to emacspeak
to notify when the number of tabs grows?
One suitable place is to define a new function for
the variable tab-bar-tabs-function, then call
tab-bar-tabs from your function, and also to count tabs
when a tab command is called.
> I run with two tabs --- one where I am doing work, the other where I
> am reading an ebook, C-tab makes this a very nice workflow.
>
> So now I have two tabs -- one called "Home" where I do work, one
> called "EBooks" where I read. All is well for a few hours.
> (length (tab-bar-tabs)) == 2
>
> At some point, C-tab when in the Home tab switches to another tab
> called "Home". When I investigate,
> (length (tab-bar-tabs)) == 3 or greater ---
> I've seen the above number grow as high as 7 depending on when I check
> --and have to close the extra tabs using C-x t 0.
>
> Unclear as to what interaction triggres the creation of these tabs.
>
> Note: I cannot see, so it's not possible to catch when this happen by
> eyeballing the tab-bar line -- I only notice when C-tab doesn't do
> what I expect.
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* Re: Tabs: Magically Growing Tabs?
2019-10-16 18:28 ` Juri Linkov
@ 2019-10-16 18:33 ` T.V Raman
2019-10-16 19:17 ` Juri Linkov
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: T.V Raman @ 2019-10-16 18:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: juri; +Cc: raman, emacs-devel
Good idea, will try instrumenting that as you suggest.
I have a niggling suspicion that there is some interaction between eww
and tab-bar that might be causing this in my specific environment -- I
always have eww open pages in a new buffer, and set up emacspeak to
automatically do that by passing a prefix arg to the various eww
opener functions
Juri Linkov writes:
> Sorry, I tried everything but can't reproduce the problem.
>
> Some "Home" tabs have the property explicit-name equal to t,
> but duplicates have no explicit-name.
>
> Could you add auditory notifications to emacspeak
> to notify when the number of tabs grows?
>
> One suitable place is to define a new function for
> the variable tab-bar-tabs-function, then call
> tab-bar-tabs from your function, and also to count tabs
> when a tab command is called.
>
> > I run with two tabs --- one where I am doing work, the other where I
> > am reading an ebook, C-tab makes this a very nice workflow.
> >
> > So now I have two tabs -- one called "Home" where I do work, one
> > called "EBooks" where I read. All is well for a few hours.
> > (length (tab-bar-tabs)) == 2
> >
> > At some point, C-tab when in the Home tab switches to another tab
> > called "Home". When I investigate,
> > (length (tab-bar-tabs)) == 3 or greater ---
> > I've seen the above number grow as high as 7 depending on when I check
> > --and have to close the extra tabs using C-x t 0.
> >
> > Unclear as to what interaction triggres the creation of these tabs.
> >
> > Note: I cannot see, so it's not possible to catch when this happen by
> > eyeballing the tab-bar line -- I only notice when C-tab doesn't do
> > what I expect.
--
Id: kg:/m/0285kf1
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Id: kg:/m/0285kf1
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* Re: Tabs: Magically Growing Tabs?
2019-10-16 18:33 ` T.V Raman
@ 2019-10-16 19:17 ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-16 20:45 ` T.V Raman
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Juri Linkov @ 2019-10-16 19:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: T.V Raman; +Cc: emacs-devel
> I have a niggling suspicion that there is some interaction between eww
> and tab-bar that might be causing this in my specific environment -- I
> always have eww open pages in a new buffer, and set up emacspeak to
> automatically do that by passing a prefix arg to the various eww
> opener functions
Ah, this explains everything - recently we changed eww to open pages
in a new buffer in a new tab when tab-bar-mode is enabled.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Tabs: Magically Growing Tabs?
2019-10-16 19:17 ` Juri Linkov
@ 2019-10-16 20:45 ` T.V Raman
2019-10-16 21:05 ` Juri Linkov
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: T.V Raman @ 2019-10-16 20:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: juri; +Cc: raman, emacs-devel
ok, will fix at the emacspeak end. Could we make this feature customizable?
Juri Linkov writes:
> > I have a niggling suspicion that there is some interaction between eww
> > and tab-bar that might be causing this in my specific environment -- I
> > always have eww open pages in a new buffer, and set up emacspeak to
> > automatically do that by passing a prefix arg to the various eww
> > opener functions
>
> Ah, this explains everything - recently we changed eww to open pages
> in a new buffer in a new tab when tab-bar-mode is enabled.
--
Id: kg:/m/0285kf1
--
Id: kg:/m/0285kf1
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* Re: Tabs: Magically Growing Tabs?
2019-10-16 20:45 ` T.V Raman
@ 2019-10-16 21:05 ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-16 21:08 ` T.V Raman
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Juri Linkov @ 2019-10-16 21:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: T.V Raman; +Cc: emacs-devel
> ok, will fix at the emacspeak end. Could we make this feature customizable?
We tried to avoid adding new options, but it seems now that
a new option with the name eww-browse-url-new-window-is-tab
still needs to be added instead of relying on heuristics
of tab-bar visibility.
> > > I have a niggling suspicion that there is some interaction between eww
> > > and tab-bar that might be causing this in my specific environment -- I
> > > always have eww open pages in a new buffer, and set up emacspeak to
> > > automatically do that by passing a prefix arg to the various eww
> > > opener functions
> >
> > Ah, this explains everything - recently we changed eww to open pages
> > in a new buffer in a new tab when tab-bar-mode is enabled.
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* Re: Tabs: Magically Growing Tabs?
2019-10-16 21:05 ` Juri Linkov
@ 2019-10-16 21:08 ` T.V Raman
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: T.V Raman @ 2019-10-16 21:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: juri; +Cc: raman, emacs-devel
Yes.
1. I use EWW a lot.
2. New tab gets created when I open a new page.
3. To prevent emacs from getting "too big", I kill short-lived EWW
buffers with "Q" -- this is how the eww buffer goes away but the tab
remains
Juri Linkov writes:
> > ok, will fix at the emacspeak end. Could we make this feature customizable?
>
> We tried to avoid adding new options, but it seems now that
> a new option with the name eww-browse-url-new-window-is-tab
> still needs to be added instead of relying on heuristics
> of tab-bar visibility.
>
> > > > I have a niggling suspicion that there is some interaction between eww
> > > > and tab-bar that might be causing this in my specific environment -- I
> > > > always have eww open pages in a new buffer, and set up emacspeak to
> > > > automatically do that by passing a prefix arg to the various eww
> > > > opener functions
> > >
> > > Ah, this explains everything - recently we changed eww to open pages
> > > in a new buffer in a new tab when tab-bar-mode is enabled.
--
Id: kg:/m/0285kf1
--
Id: kg:/m/0285kf1
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