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From: Luc Teirlinck <teirllm@dms.auburn.edu>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Putting blink-cursor-mode in Options menu.
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 11:26:59 -0600 (CST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200503011726.j21HQxZ17274@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <x5r7izs3qe.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (message from David Kastrup on Tue, 01 Mar 2005 17:58:01 +0100)

David Kastrup wrote:

   Because it is a visual feature that you want to see or not.

So are "Syntax Highlighting", "Active Region Highlighting" and "Paren
Match Highlighting".

   Then perhaps we should rename the menu.  It definitely does not "hide"
   things, since a scrollbar or toolbar or speedbar or similar does not
   get hidden, but removed or switched off.

After you remove them, you can not see them anymore, which people may
think of as "hidden", even though this is technically speaking not the
way things are implemented.  On the other hand, you definitely can
still see the cursor, whether it blinks or not.

Nitpickingly correct would be:

Show/ Do Not Show,

but "Hidden" is the name most other applications seem to use, even
though they too just "remove" stuff instead of "hiding" it.

   Personally, if settings render Emacs unusable (like you claim) for
   some audience, then these settings must be changeable from the command
   line with the man page saying so.

Having to study a man page before even being able to casually and
comfortably try out an application does usually not encourage people
to try out that application.

   That is the only safe way people will have a chance to arrive at a
   working Emacs without suffering a heart attack or epilepsy or
   blindness or whatever beforehand.

I said that it produced discomfort.  I did not claim that it was a
health hazard.
   
   This is not something that can easily be "solved", we can at best make
   a poll.  A poll among users would be most relevant, and if we don't
   have that, a poll on developers.

This is unbelievable.  We are talking about adding an option to a
menu, not about changing a default.

Sincerely,

Luc.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-01 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-01  0:34 Putting blink-cursor-mode in Options menu Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-01  8:24 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-03-01 12:18 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-03-01 14:11   ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-01 14:27     ` David Kastrup
2005-03-01 16:46       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-01 13:28 ` David Kastrup
2005-03-01 16:08   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-01 16:58     ` David Kastrup
2005-03-01 17:26       ` Luc Teirlinck [this message]
2005-03-01 18:47         ` Jason Rumney
2005-03-01 19:02           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-01 19:24           ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-03-01 20:16             ` Jason Rumney
2005-03-02 13:32               ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-03-02 18:41                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-01 19:44           ` David Kastrup
2005-03-02  0:21             ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-02  1:10               ` David Kastrup
2005-03-01 20:48           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-03  4:10           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-03  8:57             ` Jason Rumney
2005-03-03 20:57             ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-03 21:35               ` David Kastrup
2005-03-03 22:42               ` Lennart Borgman
2005-03-01 19:27         ` David Kastrup
2005-03-01 21:26           ` Kim F. Storm
2005-03-02  0:29           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-02 13:44             ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-03-02 17:56               ` David Kastrup
2005-03-03  1:38               ` Miles Bader
2005-03-03  4:32                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-03  2:27     ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-03 12:26       ` Andreas Schwab
2005-03-01 16:16   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-02 11:22 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-02 13:04   ` David Kastrup
2005-03-02 14:30     ` Kim F. Storm
2005-03-02 16:23       ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-03-02 17:53         ` David Kastrup
2005-03-02 22:19         ` Kim F. Storm
2005-03-03  3:34           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-03 20:57         ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-02 13:35   ` Jason Rumney
2005-03-03 20:57     ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-02 23:34   ` Juri Linkov
2005-03-03 20:57     ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-03 19:45   ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-03-04 23:44     ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-05  1:20       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-06 21:11       ` Kim F. Storm
2005-03-06 22:44         ` Andreas Schwab
2005-03-06 23:00         ` Miles Bader
2005-03-08  2:51         ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-08  3:32           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-08  8:21           ` Kim F. Storm

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