From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs support for Indic scripts -- First National Indic-Font Workshop March 2003
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 08:43:09 +0900 (JST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200304082343.IAA15313@etlken.m17n.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87brzgeovv.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Alex Schroeder on Tue, 08 Apr 2003 22:05:24 +0200)
In article <87brzgeovv.fsf@gnu.org>, Alex Schroeder <alex@gnu.org> writes:
> I've recently joined a mailing list with lots of people from South
> Asia on it. What is the general direction of Emacs support for these
> South Asian languages when it comes to fonts and and input methods?
> If I hear something interesting that might be of interest to Emacs, do
> I post it here? Is there some other, specific Emacs (Mule?) mailing
> list?
We have the mailing list emacs-indian@m17n.org which is
specific to Indian scripts/languages.
To subscribe to the list, please send a mail to
emacs-indian-ctl@m17n.org with the following line in the
body.
subscribe YOUR_NAME
---
Ken'ichi HANDA
handa@m17n.org
> Alex.
> To: bytesforall_readers@yahoogroups.com
> From: Vijay Pratap Singh Aditya <vijay@ekgaon.com>
> Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 21:31:32 +0530
> Subject: [bytesforall_readers] Action points First National Indic-Font Workshop March 2003
> Reply-To: bytesforall_readers@yahoogroups.com
> Hi Bytesforall Readers,
> Recently First National Indic-Font workshop, was held in Bangalore on
> Indic font issues. The actions points of the workshop are shared here
> with the group. People/organisations who are interested to voluntarily
> join Regional Language Groups being formed and contribute towards
> development of Indic-Computing are welcome. Please see below various
> groups as of now.
> regards
> vijay
> Action points First National Indic-Font Workshop March 2003
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Vijay Pratap Singh Aditya <vijay@ekgaon.com>
> First National Indic-Font workshop, organized by Indic-Computing
> Consortium was held from 28th to 30th March 2003 at PES Institute of
> Technology, Bangalore. The Indic-Computing Consortium is an initiative
> of software developers, businesses and academic institutions to evolve
> appropriate standards, resources and technologies for the
> Indic-Computing community. The Indic-Computing Consortium is designed as
> a national-level participatory organisation that serves as a common
> forum for discussion, information exchange and advocacy on behalf of all
> parties interested in the development of Indic Language Computing.
> The workshop second in series was attended by 36 participants from
> various languages & technology groups across India, Nepal & Bangladesh.
> This workshop was an outcome of deliberation held in the first
> Indic-Computing workshop held in September 2002 at Bangalore. One of the
> working groups formed at the first Indic-Computing workshop was for
> development of OTF (OpenType Fonts) & other font related issues,
> encoding, language standardization and representation in international
> consortium. One of the action point and agenda for the group was to
> \x1cHold OTF training workshop for developing major Indic language OTF
> fonts\x1d. <http://indic-computing.sourceforge.net>
> The idea was to get the community together for:
> i. Developing good look fonts
> ii. Development of open source tools for rendering and hinting of OTF
> fonts (currently OTF development uses proprietary tools)
> iii. Finding font developers for all Indian languages and coordinating
> group for each language
> iv. Making available fonts to be converted to OTF
> The workshop addressed above issues and others as enclosed in the
> workshop program (please see the website), through presentations,
> discussions & Lab/training sessions over three days. This was the first
> workshop on the subject, while it focused on OTF, it equally shared
> concerns of open standards community and talks, demos and training
> sessions of open source tools, as well as various alternative
> technologies for Indic fonts were done by some of the participants. The
> copyright/patent issue on OTF was also discussed, and concerns of
> community were answered by Mr. Lawrence Liang, (Expert on Cyber Laws)
> with a caution that the topic is debatable and much would be clear after
> the pending case of Adobe in USA courts is decided.
> Summary of Three days:
> The three days of deliberations included:
> 1) Introduction to Indic scripts, Character set, tools & Glyph Design,
> Testing glyphs, was given Ravi Pande, Font Designer, who dealt in depth
> on design of glyphs and generating of fonts & on font formats.
> 2) Encoding & PfaEdit sessions were taken by Karunakar G, Project Leader
> IndLinux.org, Pramod R of Mahiti & Asmita S. Khobragade of HBCSE.
> Karunakar further elaborated on why OTF hold the answer to some of the
> problems of developers as of now.
> 3) Dr. U B Pavanaja of Vishva Kannada Softech, discussed the OTF issues
> and described the standards, Open Type Tables and VOLT. The use of VOLT
> to develop OTF was demonstrated; during Lab participants used VOLT to
> get a hands on experience of the tool.
> 4) Arun M of FSF, demonstrated localized Knoppix in Malayalam and also
> discussed on the issues in Malayalam fonts and display of some special
> characters.
> 5) Amar Gurung, Director, Nepali Font Standardization Project of Madan
> Puraskar Pustakalaya [MPP], Kathmandu, Nepal, shared the problems in
> standardizing Nepali Font the developments done this far. He shared a CD
> on the project status and the work done (The CD content is now part of
> workshop CD distributed to the participants)
> 6) Mustafa Jabbar, of Ananda Computers, Dhaka, Bangladesh shared his
> work of 15 years in Bangla (Bengali) fonts. He claimed that a low cost
> software application \x1cBijoy\x1d which his company has developed has covered
> 95% of market in Bangladesh and is much famous in West Bengal, India
> also. He has also designed the Bangla keyboard that is now a default
> keyboard standard for Bangla.
> 7) Karunakar took sessions on TTX & talked about issues in fonts on
> Linux while Dr. Pavanaja showed digital signing of fonts. Aditya Gokhale
> of CDAC, took session on hinting of fonts.
> 8) Nagarjuna G of HBCSE, shared his experience of converting TTF fonts
> offered by Akruti to OTF and shared his experiments in using available
> open source tools to achieve good results.
> 9) IPR (cyber laws) lawyer Lawrence Liang of Alternate Law Forum,
> discussed the crucial and much debated issue of OTF openness
> (copyright/Patent) after understanding the Adobe & Microsoft agreement
> on release of the fonts. While answering concerns of community Lawrence
> cautioned that the topic is debatable and much would be clear after the
> pending case of Adobe in USA courts is decided.
> Conclusion:
> At the end of the workshop its was proposed to take up the issues that
> have emerged at more depth through regional consultations on each
> language so that focused attention is their and local & regional groups
> also get chance to participate and discuss there issues. We propose to
> take up these Regional Language Workshops in future across different
> parts of India, Nepal & Bangladesh and other regions with languages of
> Indic origin. These workshops would be coordinated by regional language
> groups (see proposed group) and would include training programs and
> technology demonstration sessions besides getting the language community
> together.
> Regional Language Working Groups:
> It was proposed to take up the initiative for having these regional
> workshops through voluntary and community efforts. An individual
> commitment on part of participants was requested to involve there energy
> in development of these regional groups and also to discuss with these
> respective organization to release atleast two fonts in each language in
> open domain. Many participants gave the commitment to take the
> initiative and also to get their organization involved in the
> initiative. The following Regional Working Groups are proposed (to be
> confirmed), these groups would take initiative and involve other
> regional partners and build common understanding of major issues to be
> discussed in the Regional Workshops. A framework for proposed Regional
> Workshop would be circulated soon for feedback and action by these
> groups. We invite volunteers who would take upon to hold these workshops
> and provide coordination & logistics support and sponsors to contribute
> to development of regional languages. The Indic-Computing Consortium
> would provide necessary technical support and capacity building to these
> regional groups.
> Hindi
> Ravi Kant, Sarai, New Delhi, <ravikant@sarai.net>
> Maryivan, Sarai, New Delhi <mary@sarai.net>
> Niyam Bhusan, New Delhi <linuxlingam@bhairon.com>
> Alok Kumar, Infosys, Bangalore, Karnataka <alkuma@yahoo.com>
> S K Anand, Akruti (Cyberscape Multimedia), <info@cyberscapeindia.com>
> Osama Mazar, 4Cplus, New Delhi, <osama@4cplus.com>
> Sanjay Gupta, 4Cplus, New Delhi, <sanjaya@4cplus.com>
> Kannada
> Dr. U B Pavanaja, Vishva Kannada Softech, Bangalore
> <pavanaja@vishvakannada.com>
> PES Institute of Technology, Bangalore, Karnataka
> Central Institute of Indian Languages, Mysore
> C.V. Srinatha Sastry, KGP, Bangalore, <sastry@ead.cmmacs.ernet.in>
> Arun Sharma <arun@sharma-home.net>
> Bhupesh Koli, BharateeyaOO.o Team, NCST (National Centre for Software
> Technology), Bangalore, <bhupesh@ncb.ernet.in>
> Shikha G Pillai, BharateeyaOO.o Team, NCST (National Centre for Software
> Technology), Bangalore, <shikha@ncb.ernet.in>
> Abhas Abhinav, DeepRoot Linux, Bangalore, <abhas@deeproot.co.in>
> Sunil Abraham, Mahiti, Bangalore, <sunil@mahiti.org>
> Pramod R, Mahiti, Bangalore, <pramod@mahiti.org>
> Punjabi
> Niyam Bhusan, New Delhi <linuxlingam@bhairon.com>
> Janmeja Johl, Ludhiana, Punjab <janmeja@email.com>
> Osama Mazar, 4Cplus, New Delhi, <osama@4cplus.com>
> Sanjay Gupta, 4Cplus, New Delhi, <sanjaya@4cplus.com>
> Urdu, Sindhi, Kashmiri & Persian
> Pritam Nahar, Reality Information Systems, Pune, Maharastra
> <pritam@realityinfo.com>
> Dr. Tarique Sani <from Nagpur>??
> Pakistan \x13 LUG, GLUG ??
> Mahesh Kulkarni, CDAC, Pune, Maharastra <mdk@cdacindia.com>
> Aditya Gokhale, CDAC, Pune, Maharastra <aditya@cdac.ernet.in>
> Santosh R, CDAC, Pune, Maharastra
> Ravi Nankarji, CDAC, Pune, Maharastra
> Bengali/Bangala, Assamese & Manipuri
> Mustafa Jabbar, Ananda Computers, Dhaka, Bangladesh <ananda@bdlink.com>
> Sayamindu Dasgupta, LUG, Kolkatta, <unmadindu@Softhome.net>
> Zaheed Hossain, Ananda Computers, Kolkatta,
> Ravi Kant, Sarai, New Delhi, <ravikant@sarai.net>
> Bangladesh group of Tani Ahmed, ??
> Marathi & Konkani
> Nagarjuna G, Homi Bhaba Center for Science & Education, Mumbai
> <nagarjun@hbcse.tifr.res.in>
> Sunil J. Shetty, Modular Infotech, Pune, <shreelinux@modular-infotech.com>
> Mohan Jadav, Modular Infotech, Pune, <modular@modular-infotech.com>
> Prakash Advani, Netcore, Mumbai, <prakash@netcore.co.in>
> G. Karunakar, Netcore, Mumbai, <karunakar@netcore.co.in>
> Ravi Pande, Pune, <panravi@yahoo.com>
> Asmita S. Khobragade, Homi Bhaba Center for Science & Education, Mumbai
> <asmita_khobragade@yahoo.com>
> Frederick Noronha, Bytesforall, Goa <fred@bytesforall.org>
> Kanti Jadia, Micropro Software Solutions, Pune <kjadia@microproindia.com>
> Tamil
> K. Viveka Nathan, TeNet, IIT Madras, Chennai <vivek@lantana.tenet.res.in>
> R. Murugapandian, Sudharsanam Centre for Arts & Culture, Pudukkottai,
> Tamil Nadu <barathee@sancharnet.in>
> Manoj R Annadurai, Chennai Kavigal, <manoj@chennaikavigal.com>
> Dr. V. Venkataramanan, <http://www.tamillinux.org> ??
> International Forum for Information Technology in Tamil,
> http://www.infitt.org/
> Telugu
> Kiran Chandra, Jana Vignana Vedika, (Prajashakti Daily), Hyderabad,
> <kiranchandra@prajashakti.com>
> Atul Negi, University of Hyderabad, Hyderabad <atulcs@uohyd.ernet.in>
> Rajasekharan, NISC India, Hyderabad, <raj@nisc.co.in>
> Gujarati
> R. K. Dave, G.A.D, Government of Gujarat, Gandhi Nagar,
> <rkdave23@hotmail.com>
> Bhavin Choksi, CRAnTI Technologies, Ahmedabad <bhc101@yahoo.com>
> Ramesh Patel, SRISTI, Ahmedabad <ramesh@sristi.org>
> Malayalam
> Rajkumar S, FSF, Trivendram, <s_raj@myrealbox.com> <raj@linuxense.com>
> Arun M, FSF, Trivendram, <arun@freedevelopers.net>
> Osama Mazar, 4Cplus, New Delhi, <osama@4cplus.com>
> Sanjay Gupta, 4Cplus, New Delhi, <sanjaya@4cplus.com>
> Nepali
> Amar Gurung, Nepali Font Standardization Project, Madan Puraskar
> Pustakalaya [MPP], Kathmandu, Nepal, <amar.gurung@info.com.np>
> Pawan Chitrakar, Kathmandu, Nepal, <pc@info.com.np>
> Oriya
> Sashikant, NIIT, Sambhalpur, Orissa, <sashimails2u@yahoo.com>
> Sanskrit
> Alok Kumar, Infosys, Bangalore, Karnataka <alkuma@yahoo.com>
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2003-04-08 20:05 Emacs support for Indic scripts -- First National Indic-Font Workshop March 2003 Alex Schroeder
2003-04-08 23:43 ` Kenichi Handa [this message]
2003-04-13 11:23 ` Richard Stallman
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