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From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: "Kim F. Storm" <storm@cua.dk>,
	David PONCE <David.Ponce@wanadoo.fr>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Suggestion: Simple way to make conditional key bindings.
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 15:33:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020826193301.GA7248@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200208261547.g7QFlpA24835@rum.cs.yale.edu>

On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 11:47:50AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > The point is that you can install a package - like table.el - which is
> > then able to install its own conditional binding on C-y *without*
> > interferring with (or even knowning) the standard binding.
> 
> I don't think that's right.  I don't believe that table wants to override
> C-y sometimes: instead it wants to override `yank' sometimes.
> So what you want to do is to create `yank-careful' and then use
> either the `remap' thingy or substitute-key-definition or something
> like that.

I agree strongly with this; I hate packages that rebind common key-bindings
with their own `equivalent' version -- naturally they fuck up totally if
you've changed the defualt binding, and even when not, such behavior often
seems very fragile.

Much better is some system like fill-paragraph uses where the generic binding
looks for `fill-parapgraph-function' to do the work, which modes can
override.  Of course such a mechanism only works for a limited set of
commands, where it's been established that they are useful to override, and
the variable etc. added -- but I think maybe this is a _good_ thing, not a
problem, and that we just ought to just make it slightly easier to define
such `semantic overrides'.

-Miles
-- 
P.S.  All information contained in the above letter is false,
      for reasons of military security.

  reply	other threads:[~2002-08-26 19:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <3D49FF140074EFAE@mel-rta7.wanadoo.fr>
2002-08-23 13:16 ` Suggestion: Simple way to make conditional key bindings Kim F. Storm
2002-08-23 17:22   ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-25 23:33     ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-26 15:47       ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-26 19:33         ` Miles Bader [this message]
2002-08-27 19:05           ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-27 22:58             ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-28 23:32               ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-29  8:54                 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-28  1:00             ` Miles Bader
2002-08-28  1:22               ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-27 11:23         ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-23 12:52 David PONCE
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-08-23 12:05 Kim F. Storm
2002-08-26  0:36 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-26 16:21   ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-30 10:27     ` Robert J. Chassell

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