From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: "Kim F. Storm" <storm@cua.dk>,
David PONCE <David.Ponce@wanadoo.fr>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Suggestion: Simple way to make conditional key bindings.
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 15:33:01 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020826193301.GA7248@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200208261547.g7QFlpA24835@rum.cs.yale.edu>
On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 11:47:50AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > The point is that you can install a package - like table.el - which is
> > then able to install its own conditional binding on C-y *without*
> > interferring with (or even knowning) the standard binding.
>
> I don't think that's right. I don't believe that table wants to override
> C-y sometimes: instead it wants to override `yank' sometimes.
> So what you want to do is to create `yank-careful' and then use
> either the `remap' thingy or substitute-key-definition or something
> like that.
I agree strongly with this; I hate packages that rebind common key-bindings
with their own `equivalent' version -- naturally they fuck up totally if
you've changed the defualt binding, and even when not, such behavior often
seems very fragile.
Much better is some system like fill-paragraph uses where the generic binding
looks for `fill-parapgraph-function' to do the work, which modes can
override. Of course such a mechanism only works for a limited set of
commands, where it's been established that they are useful to override, and
the variable etc. added -- but I think maybe this is a _good_ thing, not a
problem, and that we just ought to just make it slightly easier to define
such `semantic overrides'.
-Miles
--
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-08-26 19:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <3D49FF140074EFAE@mel-rta7.wanadoo.fr>
2002-08-23 13:16 ` Suggestion: Simple way to make conditional key bindings Kim F. Storm
2002-08-23 17:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-25 23:33 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-26 15:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-26 19:33 ` Miles Bader [this message]
2002-08-27 19:05 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-27 22:58 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-28 23:32 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-29 8:54 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-28 1:00 ` Miles Bader
2002-08-28 1:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-27 11:23 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-23 12:52 David PONCE
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-08-23 12:05 Kim F. Storm
2002-08-26 0:36 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-26 16:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-30 10:27 ` Robert J. Chassell
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