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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Suggestion: Simple way to make conditional key bindings.
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 18:36:28 -0600 (MDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200208260036.g7Q0aSR12388@wijiji.santafe.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5x4rdlbx1i.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> (storm@cua.dk)

    (global-set-key [f11] 
		    '(cond
		      (a delete-char)
		      (b find-file)
		      (c nil)
		      (t (keymap (?a . "abc") (?b . "bcd")))))

I agree that this is convenient.  The question is, is it better to
make this a primitive facility, as you suggested, or to add a macro to
do the job using menu-item, as Stefan suggested?

Using menu-item has an advantage that we use a function rather than
a form.  It also has the advantage of not adding any complexity
to the key binding data structures.

But those are not the only factors; others may be more important.

    One advantage (IMO) is that C-h k C-y will report yank or
    yank-with-properties depending on the actual function taken if
    you hit C-y.

If we use menu-item, what will C-h c say? 

    One problem with your change is "what binding do we use when we don't want
    to run code?".  The `menu-item' syntax provides a binding (in the example
    above it's "my-filter" which is not very useful indeed) for the case
    where code should not be evalled (for example in `where-is').

I think we do want where-is to find this binding, though.

      (define-key global-map "\C-y" 'yank-careful)
      (defun yank-careful (...)
	"Reinsert the last stretch of killed text, like `yank'.
      Contrary to `yank' this function is careful to preserve some important
      text properties when yanking tables."
	...)

    The advantage is that C-h k C-y doesn't just give you one of the two
    bindings but a docstring that describes both.

I think that sometimes this will be better, but sometimes it will be
better for C-h k to give the doc string for the specific command
that will be executed.

  reply	other threads:[~2002-08-26  0:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-08-23 12:05 Suggestion: Simple way to make conditional key bindings Kim F. Storm
2002-08-26  0:36 ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2002-08-26 16:21   ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-30 10:27     ` Robert J. Chassell
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-08-23 12:52 David PONCE
     [not found] <3D49FF140074EFAE@mel-rta7.wanadoo.fr>
2002-08-23 13:16 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-23 17:22   ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-25 23:33     ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-26 15:47       ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-26 19:33         ` Miles Bader
2002-08-27 19:05           ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-27 22:58             ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-28 23:32               ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-29  8:54                 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-28  1:00             ` Miles Bader
2002-08-28  1:22               ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-27 11:23         ` Kim F. Storm

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