From: Paul Eggert <eggert@twinsun.com>
Cc: raeburn@raeburn.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: 64-bit lossage
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:03:42 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200208030003.g7303g815713@green.twinsun.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200208022213.g72MDa201780@aztec.santafe.edu> (rms@gnu.org)
> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:13:36 -0600 (MDT)
> From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
>
> can't we increase address space and improve performance on both
> 32- and 64-bit hosts, without widening Lisp_Object, by moving
> the 4 tag bits to the low-order end of the Lisp_Object, and
> ensuring that all non-Lisp_Int objects are aligned at a multiple of 16?
>
> A cons cell is 8 bytes, so it would have to be a multiple of 8.
That could be arranged by sort of a Huffman coding for type bits, as
Ken Raeburn suggested. E.g., if M denotes a mark bit and XX...X
denotes 28 value bits, we could do this:
XX...X000M Lisp_Int
XX...XX01M Lisp_Cons (note that it has 29 value bits)
XX...X010M Lisp_Symbol
XX...X011M Lisp_Misc
XX...X100M Lisp_String
XX...X110M Lisp_VectorLike
XX...X111M Lisp_Float
Lisp_Symbol etc. would need to be on 16-byte boundaries, but that
could be arranged too. Of course we don't need such niceties on
64-bit hosts, but even there I think it would be a performance win to
move the tag bits to the low-order end.
> Anyway, is the limiting factor really address space for Lisp objects?
> If the issue is the size of a single buffer, that is concerned
> with the range of integers, not addresses of Lisp objects.
To represent Elisp integers that do not fit in 28 bits, we could use
floating point. IEEE-floating-point hosts will give us integers up to
2**51, which is enough. There is room for a marker bit in 'struct
Lisp_Float.type' to say "This number is really an integer, and
operations like integerp should treat it as one".
(Another possibility is to use bignums, but I assume you've already
considered this.)
At the C level, buffer-size-related integers are currently 'int' or
'EMACS_INT'. We need to change this to a size_t-width int. This will
require a lot of C-level coding cleanup but should be invisible to the
Elisp user. This low-level work needs to be done anyway, since
currently Emacs doesn't work with buffers larger than 2GB even on
64-bit hosts, since such hosts typically have 32-bit 'int'.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-08-03 0:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-07-01 16:18 64-bit lossage Dave Love
2002-07-02 19:45 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-03 18:49 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-07-17 11:25 ` Dave Love
2002-07-17 19:47 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-07-22 16:08 ` Dave Love
2002-07-22 18:52 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-17 11:24 ` Dave Love
2002-07-17 12:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-07-18 14:55 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-18 22:23 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-19 20:56 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-20 21:58 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-23 22:09 ` Dave Love
2002-07-24 13:34 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-29 22:35 ` Dave Love
2002-07-21 11:35 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-21 14:05 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-23 22:14 ` Dave Love
2002-07-23 22:12 ` Dave Love
2002-07-26 7:02 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-29 22:43 ` Dave Love
2002-07-30 14:56 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-31 5:55 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-01 17:19 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-08-01 21:19 ` Paul Eggert
2002-08-01 23:37 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-08-01 23:50 ` Paul Eggert
2002-08-03 7:48 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-08-02 22:13 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-03 0:03 ` Paul Eggert [this message]
2002-08-04 23:24 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-09 7:07 ` Stefan Monnier
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