From: Paul Eggert <eggert@twinsun.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: 64-bit lossage
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:19:41 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200208012119.g71LJfE28426@green.twinsun.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tx1lm7q339r.fsf@raeburn.org>
> From: Ken Raeburn <raeburn@raeburn.org>
> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 13:19:44 -0400
>
> But after looking at it a little, I think doubling the size of a
> Lisp_Object is probably not worth it.
I agree in general, but Emacs on x86 is quite popular, and the current
28-bit address limit is starting to bite. A few years ago I started
to work on supporting 64-bit Lisp_Object on 32-bit hosts and I got
about half the way through. It's not that hard, but it is a bit
tedious (among other things, every function really needs to be
prototyped).
Changing the subject slightly, can't we increase address space and
improve performance on both 32- and 64-bit hosts, without widening
Lisp_Object, by moving the 4 tag bits to the low-order end of the
Lisp_Object, and ensuring that all non-Lisp_Int objects are aligned at
a multiple of 16? That way, we would get all of the 32-bit address
space. Lisp_Int addition and subtraction would still be fast, since
the Lisp_Int code is zero. (Multiplication and division would be
slower, but that's rare.) And we would speed up access to
non-Lisp_Int objects, since the tag bits in many cases could be
removed at zero cost during normal address arithmetic.
> Wider integer support on a 32-bit platform, so larger files can be
> supported, buffer offsets can still be described, etc....
This would require 64-bit ints, yes. But I'm more worried about the
current 28-bit limit on Lisp object addresses on 32-bit hosts. That's
only 256 MB.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-08-01 21:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-07-01 16:18 64-bit lossage Dave Love
2002-07-02 19:45 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-03 18:49 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-07-17 11:25 ` Dave Love
2002-07-17 19:47 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-07-22 16:08 ` Dave Love
2002-07-22 18:52 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-17 11:24 ` Dave Love
2002-07-17 12:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-07-18 14:55 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-18 22:23 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-19 20:56 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-20 21:58 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-23 22:09 ` Dave Love
2002-07-24 13:34 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-29 22:35 ` Dave Love
2002-07-21 11:35 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-21 14:05 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-23 22:14 ` Dave Love
2002-07-23 22:12 ` Dave Love
2002-07-26 7:02 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-29 22:43 ` Dave Love
2002-07-30 14:56 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-31 5:55 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-01 17:19 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-08-01 21:19 ` Paul Eggert [this message]
2002-08-01 23:37 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-08-01 23:50 ` Paul Eggert
2002-08-03 7:48 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-08-02 22:13 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-03 0:03 ` Paul Eggert
2002-08-04 23:24 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-09 7:07 ` Stefan Monnier
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