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From: "Stefan Monnier" <monnier+gnu/emacs@RUM.cs.yale.edu>
Cc: monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu, rms@gnu.org,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE,
	eliz@is.elta.co.il
Subject: Re: bindings reserved for users
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:45:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200204261545.g3QFjrk29922@rum.cs.yale.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 8f.1b0ba8cd.29facc94@aol.com

> > >  C-h i m emacs RET m keymaps RET
> ...
> > The experience until now is that
> > non-ASCII letters are never used
> > by major modes or minor modes,
> > so we [haven't needed] to decide
> > whether they should be reserved for the user or not.
> 
> Curious.  I can make sense of the RMS English this way,
> thank you ... except I see you didn't write exactly this.
> Where I write [] brackets, you actually wrote "we don't
> need" to decide?

I don't care about the distinction.  I think my point
was clear enough.

> What first drew my attention here was me failing to find
> any commonly available shifted key left reserved
> for the user by GNU Emacs.

That's because you misunderstood the doc.
`E' is a letter so C-c E is reserved for the user.
Or I misunderstand what you mean by "available shifted key".

> I think [ C-h i m emacs RET m keymaps RET ] tells me
> Emacs reserves for my use only the single keys
> F5 thru F9: no single key that I can hit without looking.

Indeed.

> If M-n M-o M-p are not candidates to be reserved for the
> user, how about the other single keys not bound by
> Emacs 20.7.1 by default i.e.
> C-` C-= C-; C-' C-, C-.

Feel free to use them (note that they most likely won't be available
(or only painfully which would defeat the purpose) in `emacs -nw').
But of course since they are not reserved for your use, you might
some day find that some mode uses them (for example X-Symbol uses C-=).
You can also use M-o which seems to be pretty much completely unused
(contrary to M-p and M-n which are very often used).
Many people use non-reserved key bindings all the time.


	Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2002-04-26 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-04-26 15:30 bindings reserved for users PPAATT
2002-04-26 15:45 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-04-24 12:45 PPAATT
2002-04-23 13:47 PPAATT
2002-04-21 13:49 PPAATT
2002-04-22  7:47 ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-22  9:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-04-20 12:13 PPAATT
2002-04-18 20:47 PPAATT
2002-04-17 14:14 Kai Großjohann
2002-04-18 18:44 ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-18 19:37   ` Kai Großjohann
2002-04-20 17:28     ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-22 11:29       ` Kai Großjohann
2002-04-22 18:34       ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-22 20:10         ` Simon Josefsson
2002-04-23  6:49           ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-23 19:29           ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-25  6:05             ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-25 11:13               ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-26  8:52               ` Florian Weimer
2002-04-23 10:48         ` Kai Großjohann

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