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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: storm@cua.dk, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	helmut@212186011228.11.tuwien.teleweb.at
Subject: Re: Final(?) patch for server sockets and datagram (UDP) support.
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 05:42:33 -0700 (MST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200203141242.g2ECgXO06190@wijiji.santafe.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200203140050.QAA25591@radish.petrofsky.org> (message from Al Petrofsky on Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:50:12 -0800)

    It's always been a bit confusing that emacs uses the term process for
    sockets that have no associated process.  That confusion will get a
    little worse now that emacs processes will include server and datagram
    sockets, which don't even share processes' stream-like nature.

In principle, you are right, but practically speaking it would be a
lot of work to change this.  I see no simple name word that does
clearly fit process-or-stream-or-network-port, so any alternative
would have its own drawbacks, even if they are lesser drawbacks.
Meanwhile, working with process objects is a fairly advanced part of
Emacs Lisp programming.  I think the people who write such programs
can cope with a suboptimal name.

    I'm not saying we should rename everything now to fix this, but I
    think it would help if the start of the "make-network-process" doc
    string immediately disclaimed any relationship to a unix process.

That would be a good idea.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-03-14 12:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <m2u1sa7819.fsf@xaital.online-marketwatch.com>
2002-02-21 23:45 ` Non-blocking open-network-stream Kim F. Storm
2002-02-22 16:04   ` Stefan Monnier
2002-02-25 22:38   ` Kim F. Storm
2002-02-26 22:46     ` Helmut Eller
2002-02-27 11:59       ` Kim F. Storm
2002-02-28  4:08         ` Richard Stallman
2002-03-01  0:21           ` Kim F. Storm
2002-03-01  8:01             ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-03-01 10:50               ` Kim F. Storm
2002-03-01 17:10                 ` Pavel Janík
2002-03-01 21:23             ` Richard Stallman
2002-03-07  0:08               ` New patch for server sockets and datagram (UDP) support Kim F. Storm
2002-03-07 10:56                 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-03-07 11:39                   ` Alex Schroeder
2002-03-07 12:39                     ` Kim F. Storm
2002-03-07 14:51                       ` Alex Schroeder
2002-03-08 21:06                       ` Richard Stallman
2002-03-13 15:56                         ` Kim F. Storm
2002-03-13 23:19                           ` Final(?) " Kim F. Storm
2002-03-14  0:50                             ` Al Petrofsky
2002-03-14  9:30                               ` Kim F. Storm
2002-03-14 12:42                               ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2002-03-14 13:35                                 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-03-17 22:02                             ` I have installed the " Kim F. Storm
2002-03-07 15:18                   ` New " Helmut Eller
2002-03-07 16:09                     ` Kim F. Storm
2002-03-07 17:32                       ` Helmut Eller
2002-03-07 23:58                         ` Kim F. Storm
2002-03-08  7:38                           ` Helmut Eller
2002-03-08  9:13                             ` Kim F. Storm
2002-03-08 11:16                               ` Helmut Eller
2002-03-08 16:36                               ` Stefan Monnier
2002-03-08 20:57                                 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-03-08 21:03                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2002-03-08 21:07                             ` Richard Stallman
2002-03-13 15:12                               ` Kim F. Storm
2002-03-07 12:54                 ` Mario Lang
2002-03-07 12:58                   ` Kim F. Storm
2002-03-08  9:09                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-03-08  9:35                   ` Kim F. Storm
2002-03-08 11:04                   ` Helmut Eller
2002-03-02  7:59             ` Non-blocking open-network-stream Helmut Eller
2002-03-03  0:12               ` Kim F. Storm
2002-03-03 10:46                 ` Helmut Eller
2002-03-03 16:44                 ` Mario Lang
2002-03-03 14:39               ` Richard Stallman

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