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From: Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Cc: Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com>, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: sendmail.el bug or expected behavior?
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 14:42:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <16405.10051.482028.714802@chiark.greenend.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F23F0434-500C-11D8-9535-00039363E640@swipnet.se>

Jan D. writes ("Re: sendmail.el bug or expected behavior?"):
> Since the reason not to deliver in the foreground per default is that
> it might hang, changing the MTA timeout for foreground delivery sounds
> like a way forward.  At least you know when things fail.

RFC1123 specifies minimum timeouts for SMTP delivery.  These are
far too long to make a user wait when sending mail.  If a receiving
site is as slow as permitted by the RFC, a single message delivery
will take tens of minutes.

So as I said,
> > Changing the timeouts in your MTA is probably not a good idea (except
> > perhaps as part of configuring it as a hub-based client - see my other
> > mail).

If your MTA is a hub-based client, and you're starting with a normal
MTA, then as well as changing the timeouts you have to disable its
queue (so that -odq and -odb do the same as -odi and so that all
temporary or partial SMTP errors are treated as fatal).  If you do
this then Emacs can safely do -odb -oee as I suggested.

If you don't do this then things will definitely go wrong some of the
time, no matter what Emacs does.

Ian.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-01-26 14:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-20  6:14 sendmail.el bug or expected behavior? Rob Browning
2004-01-20 11:53 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-01-21  9:21 ` Richard Stallman
2004-01-21 18:28   ` Kevin Rodgers
2004-01-21 22:33   ` Simon Josefsson
2004-01-22 19:00     ` Richard Stallman
2004-01-22 19:09       ` Simon Josefsson
2004-01-23 12:29         ` Ian Jackson
2004-01-23 15:13           ` Jan D.
2004-01-26 11:20             ` Ian Jackson
2004-01-26 13:28               ` Jan D.
2004-01-26 13:40                 ` Ian Jackson
2004-01-26 13:50                   ` Jan D.
2004-01-26 14:10                     ` Ian Jackson
2004-01-26 14:25                       ` Jan D.
2004-01-26 14:29                         ` Ian Jackson
2004-01-26 14:35                           ` Jan D.
2004-01-26 14:42                             ` Ian Jackson [this message]
2004-01-27 18:49                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-01-27 21:03                     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-01-29 17:52                       ` Richard Stallman
2004-01-25 14:46           ` Richard Stallman
2004-01-23 18:25         ` Richard Stallman
2004-01-23 18:33           ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-01-23 18:38           ` Simon Josefsson
2004-01-26 14:09             ` Ian Jackson
2004-01-26 16:21               ` Simon Josefsson
2004-01-26 18:22                 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-01-26 19:26                   ` Simon Josefsson
2004-01-26 20:47                     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-01-27 18:50                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-01-30  4:27 ` Rob Browning
2004-01-30 14:45   ` Stefan Monnier
2004-01-30 14:46   ` Stefan Monnier
2004-01-30 14:46     ` David Kastrup
2004-01-30 16:14       ` Stefan Monnier
2004-01-31  7:51   ` Richard Stallman
2004-01-31 17:26     ` Rob Browning

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