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From: Bill Wohler <wohler@newt.com>
Subject: Re: The MH-E repository
Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 10:09:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <13139.1117559381@olgas.newt.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Stefan Monnier's message of Tue, 31 May 2005 09:08:47 EDT. <87is0z5yyv.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:

> - RMS doesn't automatically give write access to people who signed papers.

Not having write access would be a show-stopper. Question to MH-E
developers: which of you know that you don't have write access, or
aren't sure?

> - Maybe you could automate the syncing some more and do it more frequently.
> 
> - Take a look at the way Gnus's code is synced.  The use of Arch for that is
>   key.

Tell me more. Is there a document like
http://mh-e.sourceforge.net/doc/devguide.html that explains the process?
I'm not familiar with Arch. Are you talking about
http://www.gnu.org/software/gnu-arch/?

How often do you sync? Do you clone the CVS check-ins including log
messages? It looks like the answer is yes and no. Looking at the Emacs
log, it appears that many of the messages are "Merge from..." although I
see some similarity with the log messages in the Gnus CVS repository.

I'm currently syncing at MH-E releases (about 4/year) with Emacs cvs
logs like "Upgraded to MH-E version 7.84. See etc/MH-E-NEWS and
lisp/mh-e/ChangeLog for details." My MH-E CVS logs are very similar to
the Gnus CVS logs (as I look at the Gnus CVS log).

Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> wrote:

> How many developers are involved?
> 
> Have they signed papers for MH-E only, or general past/future changes
> for emacs as a whole?

Mark answered this nicely.

> > contrib, debian, htdocs, xemacs modules. These would remain on
> > SourceForge.
> 
> Why?

I think you might not understand what I'm talking about. I'm not talking
about moving the SourceForge MH-E project to Savannah, I'm merely
talking about not having two separate CVS repositories for the lisp/mh-e
directory.

Miles Bader <snogglethorpe@gmail.com> wrote:

> What _advantage_ is there to having [MH-E maintenance files] be included?

Less up-front effort modifying scripts with a different layout. There
wouldn't be any advantage to the Emacs project as a whole, so I'm
expecting that I will be keeping them external from emacs/lisp/mh-e.

> BTW, I personally would prefer it if the non-lisp files would go in
> "proper" locations, eg. image files in etc/images, etc.  I think Gnus
> is a very good model to follow on this...

I agree. The MH-E package shares images with the mail and toolbar
packages. If you were developing MH-E with a non-CVS Emacs, then you
would have to be careful about putting lisp/mail at the end of your
load-path so you don't get the wrong version of the mail elisp files.

If I were to make the requisite changes in MH-E, would someone be
willing to make the changes to these other packages?

-- 
Bill Wohler <wohler@newt.com>  http://www.newt.com/wohler/  GnuPG ID:610BD9AD
Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian!
If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-05-31 17:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-30 22:39 The MH-E repository Bill Wohler
2005-05-30 23:27 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-05-31  0:21 ` Miles Bader
2005-05-31  7:08 ` Jérôme Marant
2005-05-31  7:46   ` Miles Bader
2005-05-31  8:17     ` Jérôme Marant
2005-05-31  8:59       ` Mark D. Baushke
2005-05-31  9:30         ` Jérôme Marant
2005-05-31 15:21       ` Bill Wohler
2005-05-31  9:03   ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-31 17:47   ` Richard Stallman
2005-05-31 20:00     ` Jérôme Marant
2005-06-01 17:22       ` Richard Stallman
2005-06-02  5:31       ` packaging (was: The MH-E repository) Janusz S. Bień
2005-06-03  8:01         ` Richard Stallman
2005-05-31  8:56 ` The MH-E repository Kim F. Storm
2005-05-31 10:07   ` Mark D. Baushke
2005-05-31 17:47     ` Richard Stallman
2005-05-31 18:16       ` Mark D. Baushke
2005-05-31 18:39         ` chad brown
2005-06-01 17:24         ` Richard Stallman
2005-05-31 22:00       ` Kim F. Storm
2005-05-31 13:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-05-31 17:09   ` Bill Wohler [this message]
2005-05-31 18:06     ` Mark D. Baushke
2005-05-31 19:13       ` Stefan Monnier
2005-07-05  4:35       ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-05 18:28         ` Bill Wohler
2005-07-11  1:22           ` Mark D. Baushke
2005-05-31 21:39     ` Miles Bader
2005-05-31 17:46 ` Richard Stallman
2005-06-01  9:39 ` Richard Stallman
     [not found] ` <wohler@newt.com>
2005-06-01 13:47   ` Peter S Galbraith
2005-06-01 14:27     ` Bill Wohler
2005-06-02  6:40     ` Richard Stallman
2005-09-16 19:12   ` Shall we use etc/images more? Peter S Galbraith
2005-06-01 16:50 ` The MH-E repository Bill Wohler
2005-06-02  6:40   ` Richard Stallman
2005-06-02 18:32     ` Bill Wohler
2005-06-03 22:30       ` Richard Stallman
2005-06-03 23:25         ` Bill Wohler
2005-06-04  9:44           ` [Savannah-help-public] " Sylvain Beucler
2005-06-04 12:30             ` Miles Bader
2005-06-04 16:13               ` Bill Wohler
2005-06-04 16:52                 ` Sylvain Beucler
2005-09-30 22:49                   ` Bill Wohler
2005-10-01 17:04                     ` Sylvain Beucler
2005-10-03 23:14                       ` Bill Wohler
2005-10-04 12:17                         ` Sylvain Beucler
2005-10-04 20:13                           ` Bill Wohler
2005-06-04 17:59             ` Richard Stallman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-09-07  2:37 Shall we use etc/images more? Bill Wohler
2005-09-07  8:30 ` Kim F. Storm
     [not found] ` <E1EDCMR-00043d-Vd@fencepost.gnu.org>
2005-09-08  5:47   ` Bill Wohler
2005-09-12  4:57     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-09-12  6:07       ` Bill Wohler
2005-09-13 15:54         ` Richard M. Stallman
     [not found]         ` <E1EFD6x-0000cn-Qd@fencepost.gnu.org>
2005-09-14  1:50           ` Bill Wohler
2005-09-15 13:00             ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-09-15 18:36               ` Bill Wohler
2005-09-16  6:16                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-09-30 18:00                   ` Bill Wohler
2005-09-14  8:02         ` Chong Yidong
2005-09-14  8:55           ` Kim F. Storm
2005-09-14 23:54             ` Chong Yidong
2005-09-14 14:08               ` Kim F. Storm
2005-09-15 13:00                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-09-16  2:28               ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2005-09-12 22:43     ` Bill Wohler
2005-09-13  9:23       ` Kim F. Storm
2005-09-13 19:51         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-09-14  1:45         ` Bill Wohler
2005-09-14  6:41           ` Mark D. Baushke
2005-09-15  2:41           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-09-15 18:48             ` Bill Wohler
2005-09-29 21:45         ` Bill Wohler
2005-09-30  0:40           ` Bill Wohler
2005-09-30 14:22             ` Chong Yidong
2005-09-30 20:01             ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-15  6:45               ` Bill Wohler
2005-10-15 15:00                 ` Romain Francoise
2005-10-15 17:43                   ` Bill Wohler
2005-10-15 18:52                     ` Romain Francoise
2005-10-16 14:41                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-16 18:00                   ` Bill Wohler
2005-10-17 17:30                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-17 22:21               ` lisp/toolbar is gone (was: Shall we use etc/images more?) Bill Wohler
2005-10-18  8:03                 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-09-13 15:55       ` Shall we use etc/images more? Richard M. Stallman

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