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From: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: kuragin@google.com, 57434@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#57434: 28.1.91; Terminal Emacs Mac OS flickering.
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2022 10:18:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2sflbtslq.fsf@Mini.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2wnantwwt.fsf@Mini.fritz.box> ("Gerd Möllmann"'s message of "Thu, 01 Sep 2022 08:45:54 +0200")

Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com> writes:

> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> So we have 2 alternatives:
>>
>>   . declare that flickering on alacritty is currently a known problem,
>>     and wait till Someone comes up with the proper solution for Emacs;
>>   . add that variable I mentioned above, and let users try to fix the
>>     problem with alacritty by flipping it.
>>
>> TBH, given your description, I'm no longer sure a simple boolean
>> variable that disables insert/delete-line optimization will do, since
>> the issue seems to be a much more general one.  How sure are we that
>> some other scenario of redrawing a TTY frame won't cause similar
>> flickering regardless of the insert/delete-line feature?
>
> That's what I think, too.
>
> Maybe Dmitrii is Someone :-).

I had an idea: Until this all is standardized/stable, how about adding
two hooks that are called when Emacs is beginning a terminal update and
when it is done?  The user could then send whatever he wants to the
terminal.  Or maybe beginnign an update/end an update on any type of
frame even?  Don't know if that's useful though.





  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-01  8:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-26 16:54 bug#57434: 28.1.91; Terminal Emacs Mac OS flickering Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-27  5:34 ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-08-27  5:41   ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-08-27 15:03     ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-27 15:46       ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-27 15:58         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-27 16:01           ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-27 16:14             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-29 14:18               ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-29 14:38                 ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-29 16:04                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-29 16:05                     ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-29 16:07                       ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-29 16:27                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-29 15:15                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-08-29 16:22                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-29 17:14                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-08-29 18:24                       ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-29 18:57                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-29 19:04                           ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-29 19:17                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-29 19:26                               ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-29 19:37                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-29 20:25                                   ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-29 20:44                                     ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-29 21:08                                       ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-30 11:28                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-30  6:09                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-08-30 11:10                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-30 11:23                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-08-30 13:48                                           ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-30 16:19                                         ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-30 16:34                                           ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-30 17:00                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-30 17:22                                               ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-30 11:11                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-30  6:04                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-08-30 11:46                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-30 11:53                                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-08-30 12:07                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-30 12:15                                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-08-30 12:48                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-30 13:25                                     ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-30 13:48                                     ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-31  6:14                                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-08-31  6:14                                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-08-31  7:02                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-08-31 11:09                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-31 11:54                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-08-31 14:12                                               ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-31 14:38                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-08-31 16:00                                                   ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-31 16:21                                                     ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-31 16:34                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-31 17:11                                                         ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-31 16:25                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-01  5:44                                                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-01  6:11                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-01  6:45                                                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-01  8:18                                                             ` Gerd Möllmann [this message]
2022-09-01  8:25                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-01  8:56                                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-01 11:30                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-01 12:27                                                                     ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-09-01 12:32                                                                       ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-09-01 12:36                                                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-02  7:16                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-02  7:26                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-02  9:21                                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-03  8:04                                                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-03  9:06                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-03 16:35                                                                   ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-09-03 16:51                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-03 17:14                                                                       ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-09-03 17:21                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-04  4:55                                                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-07  4:59                                                                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-07 16:11                                                                             ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-09-07 18:17                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-08  5:31                                                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-08  6:25                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-08  6:43                                                                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-08  8:20                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-08  8:43                                                                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-08  9:16                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-08  9:35                                                                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-08 15:59                                                                                               ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-09-09 15:48                                                                                                 ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-09-09 16:00                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-20 16:35                                                                                                     ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-09-20 16:45                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-21  6:10                                                                                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-21 11:17                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-02  9:20                                                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-08-29 16:01                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-29 16:03                   ` Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-29 16:27                     ` Eli Zaretskii

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