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From: Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@fastmail.fm>
To: "Mattias Engdegård" <mattiase@acm.org>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>, 18109-done@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#18109: 24.4.50; `compilation-error-regexp-alist-alist': wrong regexp for Maven
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 16:12:25 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2ft4d3iva.fsf@fastmail.fm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DF292D98-0CAB-4867-AC87-2D25CE0D9950@acm.org> ("Mattias Engdegård"'s message of "Wed, 9 Dec 2020 19:41:27 +0100")

On 09/12/2020 19:41 +0100, Mattias Engdegård wrote:

> Quite possible, but the very emission of formalised messages to
> stdout/stderr means that this mode of usage is still acknowledged as
> somewhat common and useful.

Yes, sure.

>> - did we have really that much problems caused by bad
>> performance of compilation regexps?  Because if we did, then maybe we
>> should look at other approaches, like trying to detect the compiler
>> used, and narrow the set of regexps based on it.
>
> This is hard to do in any practical way, not the least because a
> single message buffer may consist of the combined output of dozens of
> different tools -- compilers, linters, build tools, spell checkers,
> testing, stack traces, packaging, and so on. Not to mention the
> practical difficulty of going from the string 'make' to 'GCC version
> 11.2'.
>
> That things work reasonably anyway is very much thanks to the
> prevalence of a few fairly common formats, such as GNU (file:line:
> message).

Yes, btw I see that "gnu" regexp sometimes captures messages which I
expect to be captured by "javac" regexp.  This is not that unexpected,
given the occasional similarity between formats...  I'll look into that
later.

>>  It's natural to expect
>> that many different people would edit these regexps when something
>> doesn't work for them, and expecting that you will always come and fix
>> the things up would not be very fair to you :-)
>
> Very considerate, thank you! There seems to be a fairly good flow of
> reports when something doesn't work. (A more modern and inviting
> bug-reporting system would probably help but that is a completely
> different matter.)
>
> I'm pushing the proposed tightening of gradle-kotlin because the
> principle is right, and even if the Java world internally prefer APIs
> for composing tools, a tighter regexp in Emacs helps performance and
> accuracy for other patterns. Loose regexps form a sort of tragedy of
> the commons.
>
> It seems that we also have forgotten to close the bug; doing that
> now. Thank you again for the insightful comments!

Thank you for careful work.

Filipp





      reply	other threads:[~2020-12-10 13:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-25 17:33 bug#18109: 24.4.50; `compilation-error-regexp-alist-alist': wrong regexp for Maven Filipp Gunbin
2014-07-26  7:22 ` Glenn Morris
2014-07-28 12:30   ` Filipp Gunbin
2014-08-03 15:12     ` Daniel Colascione
2020-09-09 11:16     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-03 14:59       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-04 18:11         ` Filipp Gunbin
2020-12-04 19:22 ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-12-05 22:21   ` Filipp Gunbin
2020-12-06  9:32     ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-12-06 14:22       ` Filipp Gunbin
2020-12-06 15:05         ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-12-06 15:25           ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-12-07 10:41           ` Filipp Gunbin
2020-12-07 13:49             ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-12-07 20:07               ` Filipp Gunbin
2020-12-09 18:41                 ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-12-10 13:12                   ` Filipp Gunbin [this message]

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