bug#4513: Fwd: [Aquamacs-devel] Where are the menu sub-items in Aquamacs version 2.

bug#4513: Fwd: [Aquamacs-devel] Where are the menu sub-items in Aquamacs version 2.

[David Reitter]

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Further to this, here's another menu bug:

I see that the submenus (except for the application) menu are missing  
in 23.1 based builds made on 10.5 and run on 10.5.  That is, only the  
titles show, but not the menus.

The bug is not a recent regression in Emacs - even a build from back  
in April shows this.
See also the bug report we got from a user, who had similar trouble in  
10.5.  A reasonable hypothesis here is that it is a late point-release  
of 10.5 causing this.

The master branch built on 10.5 shows missing submenus (just titles)  
when run on 10.5.
When run on 10.6 it works fine and has no problems.

I have tried moving menu-bar.el loading around in loadup.el just in  
case this is an artifact of some dumping / pure-space problem.
I'm puzzled...


PS: As for the bug with the collapsed applications menu: even a 23.1  
build (with Yamamoto's Aug 28 patch applied), made on 10.6 (and 32  
bit) shows the problem.  I
I can't make the File menu appear by removing the define-key global- 
map [menu-bar] ... expression from ns-win in this case.



Begin forwarded message:

> From: Jean-Philippe SCHILLE <jp.schille@sentesoftware.co.uk>
> Date: September 1, 2009 10:13:00 AM EDT
> To: aquamacs-devel@aquamacs.org
> Subject: [Aquamacs-devel] Where are the menu sub-items in Aquamacs  
> version 2.
> Reply-To: Aquamacs Developers <aquamacs-devel@aquamacs.org>
>
> Hello,
>
> For the 2.0 branch versions, I cannot see any sub-items in the menu  
> bar.
> The Aquamacs item is fine as all expected sub-items (About,  
> Check,Services...) are visible but the menu items File Edit Options  
> Tools Window Help do not show any sub-item when I click on them.
>
> Everything is fine with Aquamacs Emacs 1.8 though.
>
> I am running OS X 10.5.8 and I am using the latest X11 version 2.4.0  
> from http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/wiki/Releases (I wonder if  
> this is the culprit?)
>
> Thanks in advance for your help and advice.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jean-Philippe Schillé
> Sente Software Ltd
> 40 Occam Road
> Guildford GU2 7YG
> United-Kingdom
> www.sentesoftware.co.uk
>
> _______________________________________________
> Aquamacs-devel mailing list
> Aquamacs-devel@aquamacs.org
> http://lists.aquamacs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/aquamacs-devel


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bug#4513: [Aquamacs-devel] Where are the menu sub-items in Aquamacs version 2.

[David Reitter]

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Erratum: s/master branch/23.1 branch/

On Sep 22, 2009, at 2:57 PM, David Reitter wrote:

> Further to this, here's another menu bug:
>
> I see that the submenus (except for the application) menu are  
> missing in 23.1 based builds made on 10.5 and run on 10.5.  That is,  
> only the titles show, but not the menus.
>
> The bug is not a recent regression in Emacs - even a build from back  
> in April shows this.
> See also the bug report we got from a user, who had similar trouble  
> in 10.5.  A reasonable hypothesis here is that it is a late point- 
> release of 10.5 causing this.
>
> The master branch built on 10.5 shows missing submenus (just titles)  
> when run on 10.5.
> When run on 10.6 it works fine and has no problems.
>
> I have tried moving menu-bar.el loading around in loadup.el just in  
> case this is an artifact of some dumping / pure-space problem.
> I'm puzzled...
>
>
> PS: As for the bug with the collapsed applications menu: even a 23.1  
> build (with Yamamoto's Aug 28 patch applied), made on 10.6 (and 32  
> bit) shows the problem.  I
> I can't make the File menu appear by removing the define-key global- 
> map [menu-bar] ... expression from ns-win in this case.
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Jean-Philippe SCHILLE <jp.schille@sentesoftware.co.uk>
>> Date: September 1, 2009 10:13:00 AM EDT
>> To: aquamacs-devel@aquamacs.org
>> Subject: [Aquamacs-devel] Where are the menu sub-items in Aquamacs  
>> version 2.
>> Reply-To: Aquamacs Developers <aquamacs-devel@aquamacs.org>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> For the 2.0 branch versions, I cannot see any sub-items in the menu  
>> bar.
>> The Aquamacs item is fine as all expected sub-items (About,  
>> Check,Services...) are visible but the menu items File Edit Options  
>> Tools Window Help do not show any sub-item when I click on them.
>>
>> Everything is fine with Aquamacs Emacs 1.8 though.
>>
>> I am running OS X 10.5.8 and I am using the latest X11 version  
>> 2.4.0 from http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/wiki/Releases (I  
>> wonder if this is the culprit?)
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your help and advice.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jean-Philippe Schillé
>> Sente Software Ltd
>> 40 Occam Road
>> Guildford GU2 7YG
>> United-Kingdom
>> www.sentesoftware.co.uk
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Aquamacs-devel mailing list
>> Aquamacs-devel@aquamacs.org
>> http://lists.aquamacs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/aquamacs-devel
>


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bug#4513: [Aquamacs-devel] Where are the menu sub-items in Aquamacs version 2.

[David Reitter]

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Further to this:

When building the master branch [based Aquamacs] on 10.5, it will run  
without menu problems on 10.6.
The application menu is present and all menus are visible.

When run on 10.5.8, submenus are missing.

Inspecting this with the Accessibility Inspector, I see that  
AXChildren of the submenu is size 11 for the applications menu,  but 1  
for the File / Edit etc. menus.


On Sep 22, 2009, at 2:59 PM, David Reitter wrote:

> Erratum: s/master branch/23.1 branch/
>
> On Sep 22, 2009, at 2:57 PM, David Reitter wrote:
>
>> Further to this, here's another menu bug:
>>
>> I see that the submenus (except for the application) menu are  
>> missing in 23.1 based builds made on 10.5 and run on 10.5.  That  
>> is, only the titles show, but not the menus.
>>
>> The bug is not a recent regression in Emacs - even a build from  
>> back in April shows this.
>> See also the bug report we got from a user, who had similar trouble  
>> in 10.5.  A reasonable hypothesis here is that it is a late point- 
>> release of 10.5 causing this.
>>
>> The master branch built on 10.5 shows missing submenus (just  
>> titles) when run on 10.5.
>> When run on 10.6 it works fine and has no problems.
>>
>> I have tried moving menu-bar.el loading around in loadup.el just in  
>> case this is an artifact of some dumping / pure-space problem.
>> I'm puzzled...
>>
>>
>> PS: As for the bug with the collapsed applications menu: even a  
>> 23.1 build (with Yamamoto's Aug 28 patch applied), made on 10.6  
>> (and 32 bit) shows the problem.  I
>> I can't make the File menu appear by removing the define-key global- 
>> map [menu-bar] ... expression from ns-win in this case.
>>
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: Jean-Philippe SCHILLE <jp.schille@sentesoftware.co.uk>
>>> Date: September 1, 2009 10:13:00 AM EDT
>>> To: aquamacs-devel@aquamacs.org
>>> Subject: [Aquamacs-devel] Where are the menu sub-items in Aquamacs  
>>> version 2.
>>> Reply-To: Aquamacs Developers <aquamacs-devel@aquamacs.org>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> For the 2.0 branch versions, I cannot see any sub-items in the  
>>> menu bar.
>>> The Aquamacs item is fine as all expected sub-items (About,  
>>> Check,Services...) are visible but the menu items File Edit  
>>> Options Tools Window Help do not show any sub-item when I click on  
>>> them.
>>>
>>> Everything is fine with Aquamacs Emacs 1.8 though.
>>>
>>> I am running OS X 10.5.8 and I am using the latest X11 version  
>>> 2.4.0 from http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/wiki/Releases (I  
>>> wonder if this is the culprit?)
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for your help and advice.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Jean-Philippe Schillé
>>> Sente Software Ltd
>>> 40 Occam Road
>>> Guildford GU2 7YG
>>> United-Kingdom
>>> www.sentesoftware.co.uk
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Aquamacs-devel mailing list
>>> Aquamacs-devel@aquamacs.org
>>> http://lists.aquamacs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/aquamacs-devel
>>
>


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bug#4513: [Aquamacs-devel] Where are the menu sub-items in Aquamacs version 2.

[David Reitter]

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And one more bit of information:  the missing menu issue only occurs  
when I run Emacs in VNC (Apple's VNC).  When I run it locally, 10.5.8  
poses no problems.

So let's split this issue from 4513, which is about the mangle  
applications menu when compiling on 10.6


On Sep 22, 2009, at 4:55 PM, David Reitter wrote:

> Further to this:
>
> When building the master branch [based Aquamacs] on 10.5, it will  
> run without menu problems on 10.6.
> The application menu is present and all menus are visible.
>
> When run on 10.5.8, submenus are missing.
>
> Inspecting this with the Accessibility Inspector, I see that  
> AXChildren of the submenu is size 11 for the applications menu,  but  
> 1 for the File / Edit etc. menus.
>
>
> On Sep 22, 2009, at 2:59 PM, David Reitter wrote:
>
>> Erratum: s/master branch/23.1 branch/
>>
>> On Sep 22, 2009, at 2:57 PM, David Reitter wrote:
>>
>>> Further to this, here's another menu bug:
>>>
>>> I see that the submenus (except for the application) menu are  
>>> missing in 23.1 based builds made on 10.5 and run on 10.5.  That  
>>> is, only the titles show, but not the menus.
>>>
>>> The bug is not a recent regression in Emacs - even a build from  
>>> back in April shows this.
>>> See also the bug report we got from a user, who had similar  
>>> trouble in 10.5.  A reasonable hypothesis here is that it is a  
>>> late point-release of 10.5 causing this.
>>>
>>> The master branch built on 10.5 shows missing submenus (just  
>>> titles) when run on 10.5.
>>> When run on 10.6 it works fine and has no problems.
>>>
>>> I have tried moving menu-bar.el loading around in loadup.el just  
>>> in case this is an artifact of some dumping / pure-space problem.
>>> I'm puzzled...
>>>
>>>
>>> PS: As for the bug with the collapsed applications menu: even a  
>>> 23.1 build (with Yamamoto's Aug 28 patch applied), made on 10.6  
>>> (and 32 bit) shows the problem.  I
>>> I can't make the File menu appear by removing the define-key  
>>> global-map [menu-bar] ... expression from ns-win in this case.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>> From: Jean-Philippe SCHILLE <jp.schille@sentesoftware.co.uk>
>>>> Date: September 1, 2009 10:13:00 AM EDT
>>>> To: aquamacs-devel@aquamacs.org
>>>> Subject: [Aquamacs-devel] Where are the menu sub-items in  
>>>> Aquamacs version 2.
>>>> Reply-To: Aquamacs Developers <aquamacs-devel@aquamacs.org>
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> For the 2.0 branch versions, I cannot see any sub-items in the  
>>>> menu bar.
>>>> The Aquamacs item is fine as all expected sub-items (About,  
>>>> Check,Services...) are visible but the menu items File Edit  
>>>> Options Tools Window Help do not show any sub-item when I click  
>>>> on them.
>>>>
>>>> Everything is fine with Aquamacs Emacs 1.8 though.
>>>>
>>>> I am running OS X 10.5.8 and I am using the latest X11 version  
>>>> 2.4.0 from http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/wiki/Releases (I  
>>>> wonder if this is the culprit?)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for your help and advice.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Jean-Philippe Schillé
>>>> Sente Software Ltd
>>>> 40 Occam Road
>>>> Guildford GU2 7YG
>>>> United-Kingdom
>>>> www.sentesoftware.co.uk
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Aquamacs-devel mailing list
>>>> Aquamacs-devel@aquamacs.org
>>>> http://lists.aquamacs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/aquamacs-devel
>>>
>>
>


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bug#4513: [Aquamacs-devel] Where are the menu sub-items in Aquamacs version 2.

[David Reitter]

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On Sep 22, 2009, at 6:35 PM, Adrian Robert wrote:
>> So let's split this issue from 4513, which is about the mangle  
>> applications menu when compiling on 10.6
>
> Or absent File menu you mean.  It seems strange that only File and  
> not all others are affected...

I think it just grabs the first menu available and sticks it into the  
application menu.  Hence "mangled".  Attaching screenshot to illustrate.



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> Regarding the event loop crashes, I looked at the code a bit and I  
> can't see where anything is wrong with the timer handling.  Emacs  
> should be running with one thread, so add scheduling and  
> invalidation should be correct.  Can you remember if a common factor  
> in the crashes is the use of one or more popup dialogs during the  
> run prior to the crash?  The only thing I can think of here is that  
> there could be some funny business with the modal and nonmodal run  
> loops.  Otherwise, you could try uncommenting the assertion in  
> ns_select().


Note that all of the crashes occurred with 23.1, but I don't think  
you've changed / fixed anything in that area since then -?

As a common factor I can only say that I wasn't doing anything on the  
Emacs side.  I actually remember working with other apps and maybe  
switching back to an Emacs window.

I've added an assert() (in the Aquamacs master branch).  Maybe we'll  
get some bug reports this way.

- D

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bug#4513: [Aquamacs-devel] Where are the menu sub-items in Aquamacs version 2.

[CHENG Gao]

*On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:05:44 -0400
* Also sprach David Reitter <david.reitter@gmail.com>:

> On Sep 22, 2009, at 6:35 PM, Adrian Robert wrote:
>>> So let's split this issue from 4513, which is about the mangle
>>> applications menu when compiling on 10.6
>>
>> Or absent File menu you mean.  It seems strange that only File and
>> not all others are affected...
>
> I think it just grabs the first menu available and sticks it into the
> application menu.  Hence "mangled".  Attaching screenshot to
> illustrate.

As I know it's 10.6 SDK specific problem. The first menu is treated
magically. I saw some workarounds to overcome this  in cocoa-dev mailing
list. I found it[1] via googling.

Footnotes: 
[1]  http://osdir.com/ml/cocoa-dev/2009-09/msg00347.html