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* bug#9385: 23.3; [feature request] Man-max-width
@ 2011-08-27  1:57 Dave Abrahams
  2011-10-07  0:27 ` Juri Linkov
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Dave Abrahams @ 2011-08-27  1:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9385

I've been using the following advice because emacs will often format
manpages at the full 200+ columns occupied by my frame, which makes
lines unreadably long.  I would simply customize Man-width to 90, but
then the page will overflow any narrower windows I happen to have.
Frankly, IMO, I would prefer that setting Man-width to 90 would specify
a maximum width, or maybe better yet, that manpages would dynamically
reformat to fit their windows, but failing that and if backward
compatibility is a concern there should be a separate way to set the
maximum width of manpage formatting.

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(defadvice Man-getpage-in-background
  (around Man-narrow-please activate compile preactivate)
  (let ((Man-width (when (> (window-width) 90) 90)))
    ad-do-it))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---



In GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin10.8.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0 AppKit 1038.36)
 of 2011-07-31 on vulcan
Windowing system distributor `Apple Inc.', version 10.6.8
configured using `configure  '--enable-mac-app=/Applications/Misc' '--prefix=/usr/local/stow/emacs-23.3' '--with-mac' 'CFLAGS=-O3' 'CPPFLAGS=-I/opt/local/include' 'LDFLAGS=-L/opt/local/lib''

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make-network-process emacs)

-- 
Dave Abrahams
BoostPro Computing
http://www.boostpro.com






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* bug#9385: 23.3; [feature request] Man-max-width
  2011-08-27  1:57 bug#9385: 23.3; [feature request] Man-max-width Dave Abrahams
@ 2011-10-07  0:27 ` Juri Linkov
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Juri Linkov @ 2011-10-07  0:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dave Abrahams; +Cc: 9385

> I've been using the following advice because emacs will often format
> manpages at the full 200+ columns occupied by my frame, which makes
> lines unreadably long.  I would simply customize Man-width to 90, but
> then the page will overflow any narrower windows I happen to have.
> Frankly, IMO, I would prefer that setting Man-width to 90 would specify
> a maximum width, or maybe better yet, that manpages would dynamically
> reformat to fit their windows, but failing that and if backward
> compatibility is a concern there should be a separate way to set the
> maximum width of manpage formatting.
>
> (defadvice Man-getpage-in-background
>   (around Man-narrow-please activate compile preactivate)
>   (let ((Man-width (when (> (window-width) 90) 90)))
>     ad-do-it))

We could add a new option to the existing defcustom `Man-width',
e.g. (cons :tag "Maximum width" (const :value max) (integer :value 80))

But instead of that as you noted above that "better yet, that manpages
would dynamically reformat to fit their windows" is possible to do
as discussed in bug#2588.





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