* bug#44005: 28.0.50; Deleting region doesn't work
@ 2020-10-15 7:50 Parham Doustdar
2020-10-15 7:59 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-15 12:21 ` Pankaj Jangid
0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Parham Doustdar @ 2020-10-15 7:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 44005
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Hi,
Here are the steps to reproduce:
1. Create an empty buffer in any major mode, like fundamental
2. Type a character, like `a'
3. Select the entire buffer using `C-x h' and then press <DEL>
4. You will see " Beginning of buffer" in the echo area, and nothing will
be deleted.
In GNU Emacs 28.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin19.6.0, NS appkit-1894.60
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* bug#44005: 28.0.50; Deleting region doesn't work
2020-10-15 7:50 bug#44005: 28.0.50; Deleting region doesn't work Parham Doustdar
@ 2020-10-15 7:59 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-15 11:07 ` Parham Doustdar
2020-10-15 13:37 ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-10-15 12:21 ` Pankaj Jangid
1 sibling, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2020-10-15 7:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Parham Doustdar; +Cc: 44005
Parham Doustdar <parham90@gmail.com> writes:
> Here are the steps to reproduce:
> 1. Create an empty buffer in any major mode, like fundamental
> 2. Type a character, like `a'
> 3. Select the entire buffer using `C-x h' and then press <DEL>
> 4. You will see " Beginning of buffer" in the echo area, and nothing will be deleted.
I'm unable to reproduce this bug. Do you get this when starting Emacs
with -Q?
It sounds like you have some sort of extension that makes buffers
read-only installed.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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* bug#44005: 28.0.50; Deleting region doesn't work
2020-10-15 7:59 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2020-10-15 11:07 ` Parham Doustdar
2020-10-15 11:16 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-15 14:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-15 13:37 ` Andrii Kolomoiets
1 sibling, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Parham Doustdar @ 2020-10-15 11:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 44005
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Hi there,
Thanks for trying to reproduce and replying so fast!
Yeah, I ran with `-q` and the same thing is happening. The buffer isn't
read-only, though. Deleting without the region active works. Killing the
region with C-w works. It's only deleting that doesn't work.
:-(
If there's any way that I could gather more information on this, let me
know.
Thanks!
On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 9:59 AM Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:
> Parham Doustdar <parham90@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Here are the steps to reproduce:
> > 1. Create an empty buffer in any major mode, like fundamental
> > 2. Type a character, like `a'
> > 3. Select the entire buffer using `C-x h' and then press <DEL>
> > 4. You will see " Beginning of buffer" in the echo area, and nothing
> will be deleted.
>
> I'm unable to reproduce this bug. Do you get this when starting Emacs
> with -Q?
>
> It sounds like you have some sort of extension that makes buffers
> read-only installed.
>
> --
> (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
> bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
>
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* bug#44005: 28.0.50; Deleting region doesn't work
2020-10-15 11:07 ` Parham Doustdar
@ 2020-10-15 11:16 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-15 11:22 ` Parham Doustdar
2020-10-15 14:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2020-10-15 11:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Parham Doustdar; +Cc: 44005
Parham Doustdar <parham90@gmail.com> writes:
> Thanks for trying to reproduce and replying so fast!
> Yeah, I ran with `-q` and the same thing is happening. The buffer isn't read-only,
> though. Deleting without the region active works. Killing the region with C-w
> works. It's only deleting that doesn't work.
> :-(
Could you try with -Q instead of -q?
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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* bug#44005: 28.0.50; Deleting region doesn't work
2020-10-15 11:16 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2020-10-15 11:22 ` Parham Doustdar
2020-10-15 13:16 ` Andrii Kolomoiets
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Parham Doustdar @ 2020-10-15 11:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 44005
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Hi there,
Yes, tried that too. Same results.
On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 1:17 PM Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:
> Parham Doustdar <parham90@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Thanks for trying to reproduce and replying so fast!
> > Yeah, I ran with `-q` and the same thing is happening. The buffer isn't
> read-only,
> > though. Deleting without the region active works. Killing the region
> with C-w
> > works. It's only deleting that doesn't work.
> > :-(
>
> Could you try with -Q instead of -q?
>
> --
> (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
> bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
>
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* bug#44005: 28.0.50; Deleting region doesn't work
2020-10-15 7:50 bug#44005: 28.0.50; Deleting region doesn't work Parham Doustdar
2020-10-15 7:59 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2020-10-15 12:21 ` Pankaj Jangid
1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Pankaj Jangid @ 2020-10-15 12:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Parham Doustdar; +Cc: 44005
Just a radical thought. Try the steps on a bootstrap build.
make bootstrap
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* bug#44005: 28.0.50; Deleting region doesn't work
2020-10-15 11:22 ` Parham Doustdar
@ 2020-10-15 13:16 ` Andrii Kolomoiets
0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Andrii Kolomoiets @ 2020-10-15 13:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Parham Doustdar; +Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen, 44005
Parham Doustdar <parham90@gmail.com> writes:
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 1:17 PM Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:
>> Could you try with -Q instead of -q?
> Hi there,
> Yes, tried that too. Same results.
Also let's see what command runs your "<DEL>" key. Please do:
1. emacs -Q
2. C-h k <DEL>
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* bug#44005: 28.0.50; Deleting region doesn't work
2020-10-15 7:59 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-15 11:07 ` Parham Doustdar
@ 2020-10-15 13:37 ` Andrii Kolomoiets
1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Andrii Kolomoiets @ 2020-10-15 13:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 44005, Parham Doustdar
Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Parham Doustdar <parham90@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Here are the steps to reproduce:
>> 1. Create an empty buffer in any major mode, like fundamental
>> 2. Type a character, like `a'
>> 3. Select the entire buffer using `C-x h' and then press <DEL>
>> 4. You will see " Beginning of buffer" in the echo area, and nothing will be deleted.
>
> I'm unable to reproduce this bug. Do you get this when starting Emacs
> with -Q?
>
> It sounds like you have some sort of extension that makes buffers
> read-only installed.
Why read-only? Judging from the "Beginning of buffer" message some
scroll command was invoked.
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* bug#44005: 28.0.50; Deleting region doesn't work
2020-10-15 11:07 ` Parham Doustdar
2020-10-15 11:16 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2020-10-15 14:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-15 14:29 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-10-15 14:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Parham Doustdar; +Cc: larsi, 44005
> From: Parham Doustdar <parham90@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 13:07:16 +0200
> Cc: 44005@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> Thanks for trying to reproduce and replying so fast!
> Yeah, I ran with `-q` and the same thing is happening. The buffer isn't read-only, though. Deleting without the
> region active works. Killing the region with C-w works. It's only deleting that doesn't work.
> :-(
> If there's any way that I could gather more information on this, let me know.
In that case, this is perhaps macOS specific?
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* bug#44005: 28.0.50; Deleting region doesn't work
2020-10-15 14:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2020-10-15 14:29 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-15 14:41 ` Parham Doustdar
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2020-10-15 14:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 44005, Parham Doustdar
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> In that case, this is perhaps macOS specific?
I tried it on Macos, and was unable to reproduce the problem.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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* bug#44005: 28.0.50; Deleting region doesn't work
2020-10-15 14:29 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2020-10-15 14:41 ` Parham Doustdar
2020-10-15 19:29 ` Andrii Kolomoiets
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Parham Doustdar @ 2020-10-15 14:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 44005
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Hi there,
<DEL> runs `delete-backward-char'.
However, I had a thought. I'm running Emacs with Emacspeak, which advices
some functions to act as a screen reader and speak the deleted character. I
can't verify that Emacspeak isn't causing this error, although reading the
source code of the advice, all i see is a call to `(preceding-char)'.
Is there a way to follow the execution and see what that scrolling function
is?
Another thing that I noticed is that when I do `C-x h' my point is in the
very beginning of the buffer. Not sure if it has always been the case.
So, when I type `a ' (that is, a and then a space) and press `C-x h',
`(point)' returns 1, `(region-beginning)' returns 1, and `(region-end)'
returns 3.
I hope this is all useful.
Best,
Parham
On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 4:29 PM Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > In that case, this is perhaps macOS specific?
>
> I tried it on Macos, and was unable to reproduce the problem.
>
> --
> (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
> bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
>
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* bug#44005: 28.0.50; Deleting region doesn't work
2020-10-15 14:41 ` Parham Doustdar
@ 2020-10-15 19:29 ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-10-15 19:51 ` Parham Doustdar
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Andrii Kolomoiets @ 2020-10-15 19:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Parham Doustdar; +Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen, 44005
Parham Doustdar <parham90@gmail.com> writes:
> Hi there,
> <DEL> runs `delete-backward-char'.
What is the value of the `delete-active-region` variable?
I can reproduce your issue by these steps:
1. emacs -Q
2. M-: (setq delete-active-region nil)
3. C-x h
4. M-x delete-backward-char
But if I skip step 2 the selected text is deleted.
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* bug#44005: 28.0.50; Deleting region doesn't work
2020-10-15 19:29 ` Andrii Kolomoiets
@ 2020-10-15 19:51 ` Parham Doustdar
2020-10-16 5:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Parham Doustdar @ 2020-10-15 19:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrii Kolomoiets; +Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen, 44005
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Hi,
Reading the documentation for the variable you just pointed to made me
realize that maybe transient-mode is somehow being turned off.
I did `emacs -Q`, and checked the value of `transient-mark-mode' in the
customize interface. It says that the value was "modified outside
customize".
So, something is setting this variable to nil, even though the standard
value is `t'.
No idea how this could be caused (maybe it's caused by the emacs-plus
homebrew formula I'm using?) but at least I can get rid of the weird
behavior by turning on transient mark mode now.
Thanks a lot everyone for all the help. I really appreciate it.
Best,
Parham
On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 9:29 PM Andrii Kolomoiets <andreyk.mad@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Parham Doustdar <parham90@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Hi there,
> > <DEL> runs `delete-backward-char'.
>
> What is the value of the `delete-active-region` variable?
>
> I can reproduce your issue by these steps:
> 1. emacs -Q
> 2. M-: (setq delete-active-region nil)
> 3. C-x h
> 4. M-x delete-backward-char
>
> But if I skip step 2 the selected text is deleted.
>
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* bug#44005: 28.0.50; Deleting region doesn't work
2020-10-15 19:51 ` Parham Doustdar
@ 2020-10-16 5:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2020-10-16 5:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Parham Doustdar; +Cc: 44005, Andrii Kolomoiets
Parham Doustdar <parham90@gmail.com> writes:
> Thanks a lot everyone for all the help. I really appreciate it.
No problem; closing the bug report.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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