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From: Pieter van Oostrum <pieter-l@vanoostrum.org>
To: Pip Cet <pipcet@gmail.com>
Cc: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>, Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
	39962@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#39962: 27.0.90; Crash in Emacs 27.0.90
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2020 20:17:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <lxk13g887w.fsf@cochabamba.vanoostrum.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOqdjBdxbVY-ymdnVZaW9+hHDSGajwm9hDBnifKfxSCCnTbYtg@mail.gmail.com> (Pip Cet's message of "Wed, 18 Mar 2020 14:08:19 +0000")

Pip Cet <pipcet@gmail.com> writes:

> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 11:38 AM Pieter van Oostrum
>> I have a procedure to generate a crash, but it isn't very predictable.
>> I think that is because there are timers running and asynchronous
>> processes. I get a different crash each time I run it.
>
> I think it's because of user interaction and the events it generates...

[
...
]
> Is it possible this is somehow related to mouse/keyboard interaction?
> That's my prime suspect, anyway; I still think that macOS runs code
> asynchronously upon receiving external events in ways that aren't
> kosher, particularly if they happen during GC.

I think that is quite probable.

I had my keyboard macro translated to an Elisp function and then called this a 100 times with dotimes. However, there was no crash, even though I had the smaller stack size.

In total I had the macro run some 300+ times without any crash. I just had it run automatically (put it in a .el file, and used emacs -Q -l testfile.el), so no keyboard/mouse interaction.

> If I'm right, it should be possible to trigger the bug by creating a
> reasonably large session, running (garbage-collect) in an infinite
> loop, and interacting with the mouse and keyboard while that is
> happening. Or running your keyboard macro in a similar loop, of
> course.

But if I do it in a loop it will not react to the keyboard/mouse. Do you think the asynchronous processing of these events will be sufficient, even though no action is taken on these events?
-- 
Pieter van Oostrum
www: http://pieter.vanoostrum.org/
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-19 19:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-06 23:55 bug#39962: 27.0.90; Crash in Emacs 27.0.90 Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-07  7:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-07  8:40   ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-07  8:41   ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-07 10:51     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-07 11:06   ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-07 13:10     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-07 15:06       ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-07 15:17         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-07 15:49           ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-07 16:07             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-07 17:21               ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-07 18:01                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-07 19:14                   ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-07 19:21                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-07 22:07                       ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-09  4:00     ` Pip Cet
2020-03-08  7:42 ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-08  9:34   ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-08 10:05     ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-08 21:37       ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-08 21:58         ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-08 22:34         ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-08 23:58           ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-09  0:01             ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-09 13:26               ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-09 17:10                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-09 19:48                   ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-10 13:37                     ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-09 19:51                   ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-09 21:32                     ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-10 10:52                       ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-10 14:19                         ` Pip Cet
2020-03-10 16:36                           ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-11 14:32                             ` Pip Cet
2020-03-11 15:16                               ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-11 15:43                                 ` Pip Cet
2020-03-11 15:51                                   ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-11 16:21                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-11 17:52                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-11 18:53                                     ` Pip Cet
2020-03-11 19:34                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-12 10:32                                         ` Pip Cet
2020-03-12 15:23                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-12 20:36                                             ` Pip Cet
2020-03-13  9:39                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-13 13:56                                                 ` Pip Cet
2020-03-13 16:30                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-14  9:02                                                     ` Pip Cet
2020-03-14 15:39                                                       ` Pip Cet
2020-03-14 16:00                                                         ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-14 16:15                                                           ` Pip Cet
2020-03-14 16:57                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-14 18:34                                                               ` Pip Cet
2020-03-14 19:09                                                                 ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-14 20:10                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-15 12:12                                                                     ` Pip Cet
2020-03-15 14:53                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-15 12:09                                                                   ` Pip Cet
2020-03-15 14:50                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-16 16:31                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-11 20:03                                   ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-12 13:55                                     ` Pip Cet
2020-03-12 18:13                                       ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-12 20:00                                         ` Pip Cet
2020-03-13  8:09                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-13  8:39                                             ` Pip Cet
2020-03-13  9:19                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-13 17:43                                                 ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-14  3:38                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-14  8:37                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-14  9:16                                                     ` Pip Cet
2020-03-14 15:34                                                       ` Pip Cet
2020-03-13 17:42                                             ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-13 19:34                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-13 21:35                                                 ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-14  8:08                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-14 21:32                                                     ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-15 19:49                                                       ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-15 19:57                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-15 23:26                                                           ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-16 10:44                                                             ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-16 15:07                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-16 15:33                                                               ` Pip Cet
2020-03-16 17:19                                                                 ` Pip Cet
2020-03-17  3:29                                                                   ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-17  4:54                                                                     ` Pip Cet
2020-03-17  5:20                                                                       ` Pip Cet
2020-03-17  8:45                                                                         ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-17 13:54                                                                           ` Pip Cet
2020-03-17 15:27                                                                             ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-17 20:16                                                                               ` Pip Cet
2020-03-17 23:32                                                                                 ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-18 15:05                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-19 13:23                                                                                     ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-19 13:57                                                                                       ` Pip Cet
2020-03-21 21:22                                                                                         ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-22 14:21                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-22 15:48                                                                                           ` Pip Cet
2020-03-23 19:34                                                                                             ` Pip Cet
2020-03-17  8:40                                                                       ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-17 15:33                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-17 20:59                                                                       ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-18  6:17                                                                         ` Pip Cet
2020-03-18  9:22                                                                           ` Robert Pluim
2020-03-18 11:38                                                                             ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-18 11:57                                                                               ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-18 14:08                                                                               ` Pip Cet
2020-03-19 19:17                                                                                 ` Pieter van Oostrum [this message]
2020-03-19 19:31                                                                                   ` Pip Cet
2020-03-19 21:30                                                                                     ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-18 14:08                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-16 18:36                                                                 ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-13  7:58                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-10 15:10                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-10 18:23                           ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-11  8:22                         ` Paul Eggert
2022-04-30 12:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-29 13:19   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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