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From: Pieter van Oostrum <pieter-l@vanoostrum.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 39962@debbugs.gnu.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, Pip Cet <pipcet@gmail.com>
Subject: bug#39962: 27.0.90; Crash in Emacs 27.0.90
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 18:42:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <lx36acqhhj.fsf@cochabamba.vanoostrum.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83y2s48yn7.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 13 Mar 2020 10:09:00 +0200")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Pip Cet <pipcet@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 20:00:13 +0000
>> Cc: 39962@debbugs.gnu.org, Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
>> 
>> The first attachment to this message is an Elisp file which does the
>> same thing, by creating thousands of symbols. On GNU/Linux, with
>> fairly default standard stack size settings, I get a segfault after
>> some 85,000 symbols have been created.
>
> The default stack size on GNU/Linux is 2MB, right?  Maybe it's high
> time we raised that, what with the memory size today's machines
> routinely have at their disposal.  FWIW, the MS-Windows build have
> been using a 8MB run-time stack for a very long time.

My ulimit -s was 8192 (8 MiBi if I am correct).
The maximum I can set it to is 65532 (that's 64 MiBi if I am correct).

> Of course, given enough recursive data structures we can always crash
> the current GC the way it is implemented.  But the question is how
> many such recursive symbols are there in Pieter's sessions? are they
> anywhere near the 1000000000 mark you used in your test program?  IOW,
> I think we need to know how close we are in real-life sessions to the
> dangerous mark.

One file had 5063 messages, another one 2374.
But I was resorting these files, so I don't know if these caused more of these entries to be generated. The sorting has to reorder the messages, so I get the total would double, but they would be separate lists.

> Maybe this is also worth reporting to VM developers.  They might
> consider changing their implementation to avoid these problems.
>
> Thanks.

-- 
Pieter van Oostrum
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-03-13 17:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-06 23:55 bug#39962: 27.0.90; Crash in Emacs 27.0.90 Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-07  7:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-07  8:40   ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-07  8:41   ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-07 10:51     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-07 11:06   ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-07 13:10     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-07 15:06       ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-07 15:17         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-07 15:49           ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-07 16:07             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-07 17:21               ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-07 18:01                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-07 19:14                   ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-07 19:21                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-07 22:07                       ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-09  4:00     ` Pip Cet
2020-03-08  7:42 ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-08  9:34   ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-08 10:05     ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-08 21:37       ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-08 21:58         ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-08 22:34         ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-08 23:58           ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-09  0:01             ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-09 13:26               ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-09 17:10                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-09 19:48                   ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-10 13:37                     ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-09 19:51                   ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-09 21:32                     ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-10 10:52                       ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-10 14:19                         ` Pip Cet
2020-03-10 16:36                           ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-11 14:32                             ` Pip Cet
2020-03-11 15:16                               ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-11 15:43                                 ` Pip Cet
2020-03-11 15:51                                   ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-11 16:21                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-11 17:52                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-11 18:53                                     ` Pip Cet
2020-03-11 19:34                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-12 10:32                                         ` Pip Cet
2020-03-12 15:23                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-12 20:36                                             ` Pip Cet
2020-03-13  9:39                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-13 13:56                                                 ` Pip Cet
2020-03-13 16:30                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-14  9:02                                                     ` Pip Cet
2020-03-14 15:39                                                       ` Pip Cet
2020-03-14 16:00                                                         ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-14 16:15                                                           ` Pip Cet
2020-03-14 16:57                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-14 18:34                                                               ` Pip Cet
2020-03-14 19:09                                                                 ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-14 20:10                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-15 12:12                                                                     ` Pip Cet
2020-03-15 14:53                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-15 12:09                                                                   ` Pip Cet
2020-03-15 14:50                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-16 16:31                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-11 20:03                                   ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-12 13:55                                     ` Pip Cet
2020-03-12 18:13                                       ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-12 20:00                                         ` Pip Cet
2020-03-13  8:09                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-13  8:39                                             ` Pip Cet
2020-03-13  9:19                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-13 17:43                                                 ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-14  3:38                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-14  8:37                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-14  9:16                                                     ` Pip Cet
2020-03-14 15:34                                                       ` Pip Cet
2020-03-13 17:42                                             ` Pieter van Oostrum [this message]
2020-03-13 19:34                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-13 21:35                                                 ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-14  8:08                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-14 21:32                                                     ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-15 19:49                                                       ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-15 19:57                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-15 23:26                                                           ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-16 10:44                                                             ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-16 15:07                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-16 15:33                                                               ` Pip Cet
2020-03-16 17:19                                                                 ` Pip Cet
2020-03-17  3:29                                                                   ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-17  4:54                                                                     ` Pip Cet
2020-03-17  5:20                                                                       ` Pip Cet
2020-03-17  8:45                                                                         ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-17 13:54                                                                           ` Pip Cet
2020-03-17 15:27                                                                             ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-17 20:16                                                                               ` Pip Cet
2020-03-17 23:32                                                                                 ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-18 15:05                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-19 13:23                                                                                     ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-19 13:57                                                                                       ` Pip Cet
2020-03-21 21:22                                                                                         ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-22 14:21                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-22 15:48                                                                                           ` Pip Cet
2020-03-23 19:34                                                                                             ` Pip Cet
2020-03-17  8:40                                                                       ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-17 15:33                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-17 20:59                                                                       ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-18  6:17                                                                         ` Pip Cet
2020-03-18  9:22                                                                           ` Robert Pluim
2020-03-18 11:38                                                                             ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-18 11:57                                                                               ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-18 14:08                                                                               ` Pip Cet
2020-03-19 19:17                                                                                 ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-19 19:31                                                                                   ` Pip Cet
2020-03-19 21:30                                                                                     ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-18 14:08                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-16 18:36                                                                 ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-13  7:58                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-10 15:10                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-10 18:23                           ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-11  8:22                         ` Paul Eggert
2022-04-30 12:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-29 13:19   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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