From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: 41531@debbugs.gnu.org, "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>,
andreyk.mad@gmail.com
Subject: bug#41531: 27.0.91; Better handle asynchronous eldoc backends
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 12:07:52 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvzh8bia9e.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3211602a-ccc6-aa53-d192-77f27c2060ce@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:24:18 +0300")
> The current discussion, and the current eldoc-async branch adds some more
> design decisions, as well as breaking changes.
I don't see any breaking changes (other than to things which haven't
yet been released IMO).
> As soon as we get futures/promises/aio into the core, that will cease to be
> the case.
Then let's get moving on that. No need to wait.
> But I fear we wouldn't be able to roll back the related decisions
> so easily, however.
I don't see any reason to fear that. The more time we spend discussing
what the ideal should look like, the less time we have to actually
get there.
The current eldoc-async branch doesn't get us further from the ideal,
I believe, unless `emacs-28` gets cut before we get our act together.
But if we don't get our act together before `emacs-28` then the
alternative is to have Emacs-28 without support for async eldoc, which
I think is even worse.
I recommend we try and be pragmatic. Especially since it will make us
all happier (instead of arguing against each other, we get to work on
improving the code).
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-07-07 16:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-25 17:04 bug#41531: 27.0.91; Better handle asynchronous eldoc backends João Távora
2020-05-25 23:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-26 1:21 ` João Távora
2020-05-26 13:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-26 16:03 ` João Távora
2020-05-26 19:14 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-26 20:00 ` João Távora
2020-05-27 21:14 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-27 22:13 ` João Távora
2020-05-27 23:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-27 23:57 ` João Távora
2020-05-26 2:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-26 11:22 ` João Távora
2020-05-26 14:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-26 15:19 ` João Távora
2020-05-26 15:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-26 16:26 ` João Távora
2020-05-26 17:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-26 18:49 ` João Távora
2020-06-03 2:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-06-03 18:07 ` João Távora
2020-06-03 20:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-06-03 20:36 ` João Távora
2020-06-03 21:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-06-05 11:26 ` João Távora
2020-06-03 21:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-06-06 1:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-26 13:32 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-26 16:56 ` João Távora
2020-06-03 18:56 ` bug#41531: 28.0.50; proper Eldoc async support João Távora
2020-06-04 16:20 ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-06-04 18:22 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-06-04 19:00 ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-06-05 22:53 ` João Távora
2020-06-05 11:00 ` João Távora
2020-06-05 17:50 ` Theodor Thornhill via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-06-05 23:25 ` João Távora
2020-06-05 23:28 ` João Távora
2020-06-11 11:11 ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-06-30 11:31 ` bug#41531: 27.0.91; Better handle asynchronous eldoc backends João Távora
2020-07-04 7:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-04 9:21 ` João Távora
2020-07-04 9:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-04 9:37 ` João Távora
2020-07-04 9:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-04 11:00 ` João Távora
2020-07-04 21:06 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-04 23:12 ` João Távora
2020-07-07 0:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-07 10:58 ` João Távora
2020-07-07 14:18 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-07 14:34 ` João Távora
2020-07-05 12:03 ` João Távora
2020-07-05 15:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-05 15:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-04 10:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-04 11:48 ` João Távora
2020-07-04 21:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-04 21:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-04 23:07 ` João Távora
2020-07-07 3:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-07 10:56 ` João Távora
2020-07-07 12:23 ` João Távora
2020-07-07 13:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-07 14:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-07 16:07 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2020-07-07 23:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-08 3:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-08 11:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-08 13:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-08 13:41 ` João Távora
2020-07-08 14:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-08 15:12 ` João Távora
2020-07-08 18:32 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-08 19:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-07 14:45 ` João Távora
2020-07-07 14:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-07 22:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-07 22:49 ` João Távora
2020-07-07 23:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-07 23:24 ` João Távora
2020-07-07 23:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-07 23:46 ` João Távora
2020-07-08 0:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
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