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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Tassilo Horn <tsdh@gnu.org>
Cc: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>, Neil Jackson <neil.jackson@live.ca>,
	16573@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#16573: 24.3; Auctex (11.87.2) in Elpa issues hundreds of warnings on compile
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 09:49:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvtxckz04b.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs__2016.11754387176$1391180843$gmane$org@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87eh3obhv5.fsf@thinkpad-t61.fritz.box> (Tassilo Horn's message of "Fri, 31 Jan 2014 10:50:06 +0100")

>>> I guess I should wrap those TeX-auto-add-type calls with a
>>> `eval-when-compile', right?
>> You could.
> No, I get a compile error in tex.el when compiling

Of course, eval-when-compile and eval-and-compile come with their own
set of problems.  My "you could" wasn't really meant as an encouragement.

>> Or you could turn them into macros.
> Indeed, that looks like a typical use-case for macros, but I'm rather
> sure that there's a good reason that the auto parser stuff is like it
> is.  David?

Whatever the reason, looking at the code of TeX-auto-add-type, I think
it *really* should be turned into a macro, and use defvar/defalias
instead of set/fset.

> While we are at it: David, is there any reason why somebody would want
> to set TeX-install-font-lock to 'ignore nowadays so that font-latex is
> not loaded?

Would that make AUCTeX use tex-mode.el's font-lock rules?

>> Good question.  We usually use `declare-function' for these, but
>> admittedly, it's not a great solution.
> I see.  The reason for the code above is that foo is only callable in
> very special conditions.

That's what I expected.  We also have such code in various parts
of Emacs.  But we don't have a really good solution w.r.t to silencing
those warnings.

One potential solution I haven't investigated is to create a new
`require-autoload' which behaves somewhat like `require' (when
interpreted) but which the compiler would replace by a bunch of
autoloads (auto-generated by the compiler by taking the intersection of
the functions provided by the `require' and the functions called in the
file).  So you'd replace that code with

   (require-autoload 'url-util)
   (defun foo ()
     (url-util-* ...))

and url-util would only be loaded once you call `foo'.
Maybe `require-lazy' would be a better name for it, but in any case as
long as it's not implemented, its name doesn't matter much.


        Stefan





  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-01-31 14:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-27 18:06 bug#16573: 24.3; Auctex (11.87.2) in Elpa issues hundreds of warnings on compile Neil Jackson
2014-01-27 18:23 ` Glenn Morris
2014-01-28  0:22 ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found] ` <jwvr47tdkm3.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org>
2014-01-28  8:14   ` Tassilo Horn
2014-01-28 17:27     ` Achim Gratz
2014-01-28 21:36       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-28 22:29         ` Achim Gratz
     [not found]         ` <87ppnb4u6p.fsf@Rainer.invalid>
2014-01-29  1:26           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-29  6:26             ` Achim Gratz
     [not found]             ` <87txcni9rj.fsf@Rainer.invalid>
2014-01-29 13:54               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-28  8:28   ` bug#16573: [Bug-AUCTeX] " Mosè Giordano
2014-01-29 19:30     ` Tassilo Horn
     [not found]     ` <87a9ee8u1y.fsf@thinkpad-t61.fritz.box>
2014-01-29 20:18       ` Glenn Morris
     [not found]       ` <o438k6y21d.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
2014-01-30  7:59         ` Tassilo Horn
     [not found]         ` <87ppn9nbn4.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-01-30  8:07           ` Glenn Morris
     [not found]           ` <yxmwidvqn4.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
2014-01-30 10:27             ` Tassilo Horn
     [not found]             ` <87lhxxn4rn.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-01-30 13:10               ` Mosè Giordano
2014-01-30 13:15               ` Tassilo Horn
     [not found]               ` <CAKtYQqRi74erbwpO7JWJiH0qThFxFP9nxmASzGbe+d0BXgW03g@mail.gmail.com>
2014-01-30 13:21                 ` Tassilo Horn
     [not found]                 ` <8761p1mwpm.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-01-30 15:34                   ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                   ` <jwveh3p4hob.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org>
2014-01-31  8:05                     ` Tassilo Horn
2014-01-31 14:38                       ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                       ` <jwvzjmcz093.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org>
2014-01-31 18:09                         ` Tassilo Horn
     [not found]               ` <87a9edmwzb.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-01-30 15:41                 ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                 ` <jwv8utx4h41.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org>
2014-01-31  9:50                   ` Tassilo Horn
     [not found]                   ` <87eh3obhv5.fsf@thinkpad-t61.fritz.box>
2014-01-31 10:05                     ` David Kastrup
     [not found]                     ` <877g9g4gak.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
2014-01-31 12:20                       ` Tassilo Horn
2014-01-31 14:49                     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
     [not found]                     ` <jwvtxckz04b.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org>
2014-01-31 15:27                       ` Tassilo Horn
     [not found]   ` <87k3dkttex.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-01-28 17:07     ` Glenn Morris
2014-01-28 17:28       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2014-01-28 20:43       ` Tassilo Horn
     [not found]       ` <87eh3sm2xi.fsf__44933.1636344597$1390940459$gmane$org@gmail.com>
2014-01-29 20:00         ` Tassilo Horn
     [not found]         ` <8738k68sop.fsf@thinkpad-t61.fritz.box>
2014-01-30  5:53           ` Thierry Volpiatto
2020-08-21  1:29 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-08-27 10:35 ` Tassilo Horn

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