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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de>
Cc: 16573@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#16573: 24.3; Auctex (11.87.2) in Elpa issues hundreds of warnings on compile
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 20:26:42 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv38k7wq1p.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs__46744.9629716159$1390958865$gmane$org@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ppnb4u6p.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (Achim Gratz's message of "Tue, 28 Jan 2014 23:29:02 +0100")

> That's certainly not recommended for everyone and everything, but since
> declare-function must used in situations were the function to be
> declared is known to be already defined at runtime, the autoload will
> never do anything anyway;

It does do something:
- it does something during byte-compilation.
- it does something during run-time if the function is "already loaded
  when you call it" but not "already loaded when you load the file".
Both of those situations are quite common.  The reason why you don't
suffer from it is not that the autoload doesn't do anything, but because
the autoload is usually harmless.

> Defining this nil and then not finding the one warning that must be
> dealt with in the hundreds of spurious warnings is decidedly worse.

Admittedly I haven't spent much time dealing with compatibility with
older Emacsen lately, but in the past I've never found warnings useful
for that work.  So I only ever used warnings to help debug & improve my
code on my "main" Emacs version, and completely ignored warnings when
porting to older Emacsen (relying on testing and bug-reports instead).

Of course, it's probably got to do with taste, but if you're going to
use `autoload', then I strongly suggest you name it
`<foo>-declare-function', since when "adding a missing definition" you're
better off defining it *exactly* like a recentish Emacs.


        Stefan





  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-01-29  1:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-27 18:06 bug#16573: 24.3; Auctex (11.87.2) in Elpa issues hundreds of warnings on compile Neil Jackson
2014-01-27 18:23 ` Glenn Morris
2014-01-28  0:22 ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found] ` <jwvr47tdkm3.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org>
2014-01-28  8:14   ` Tassilo Horn
2014-01-28 17:27     ` Achim Gratz
2014-01-28 21:36       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-28 22:29         ` Achim Gratz
     [not found]         ` <87ppnb4u6p.fsf@Rainer.invalid>
2014-01-29  1:26           ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2014-01-29  6:26             ` Achim Gratz
     [not found]             ` <87txcni9rj.fsf@Rainer.invalid>
2014-01-29 13:54               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-28  8:28   ` bug#16573: [Bug-AUCTeX] " Mosè Giordano
2014-01-29 19:30     ` Tassilo Horn
     [not found]     ` <87a9ee8u1y.fsf@thinkpad-t61.fritz.box>
2014-01-29 20:18       ` Glenn Morris
     [not found]       ` <o438k6y21d.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
2014-01-30  7:59         ` Tassilo Horn
     [not found]         ` <87ppn9nbn4.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-01-30  8:07           ` Glenn Morris
     [not found]           ` <yxmwidvqn4.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
2014-01-30 10:27             ` Tassilo Horn
     [not found]             ` <87lhxxn4rn.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-01-30 13:10               ` Mosè Giordano
2014-01-30 13:15               ` Tassilo Horn
     [not found]               ` <CAKtYQqRi74erbwpO7JWJiH0qThFxFP9nxmASzGbe+d0BXgW03g@mail.gmail.com>
2014-01-30 13:21                 ` Tassilo Horn
     [not found]                 ` <8761p1mwpm.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-01-30 15:34                   ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                   ` <jwveh3p4hob.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org>
2014-01-31  8:05                     ` Tassilo Horn
2014-01-31 14:38                       ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                       ` <jwvzjmcz093.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org>
2014-01-31 18:09                         ` Tassilo Horn
     [not found]               ` <87a9edmwzb.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-01-30 15:41                 ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                 ` <jwv8utx4h41.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org>
2014-01-31  9:50                   ` Tassilo Horn
     [not found]                   ` <87eh3obhv5.fsf@thinkpad-t61.fritz.box>
2014-01-31 10:05                     ` David Kastrup
     [not found]                     ` <877g9g4gak.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
2014-01-31 12:20                       ` Tassilo Horn
2014-01-31 14:49                     ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                     ` <jwvtxckz04b.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org>
2014-01-31 15:27                       ` Tassilo Horn
     [not found]   ` <87k3dkttex.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-01-28 17:07     ` Glenn Morris
2014-01-28 17:28       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2014-01-28 20:43       ` Tassilo Horn
     [not found]       ` <87eh3sm2xi.fsf__44933.1636344597$1390940459$gmane$org@gmail.com>
2014-01-29 20:00         ` Tassilo Horn
     [not found]         ` <8738k68sop.fsf@thinkpad-t61.fritz.box>
2014-01-30  5:53           ` Thierry Volpiatto
2020-08-21  1:29 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-08-27 10:35 ` Tassilo Horn

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