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From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>,
	57003@debbugs.gnu.org, Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
Subject: bug#57003: 28.1.90; Can local variables be loaded before loading major mode?
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2022 10:40:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvsfj6itry.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h6zni1uc.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Sat, 29 Oct 2022 06:24:43 +0000")

>> The problem is not that the variables are set too late,it's that you
>> fold too early: the folding should not to take place from within
>> `org-mode` but instead `org-mode` should add the folding function to
>> `hack-local-variables-hook`.
>>
>> What you request is a common need, and `hack-local-variables-hook` is
>> the standard answer.
>
> I guess that it can be an option. Though such hook will also need to be
> guarded against repetitive execution (if `hack-local-variables' is
> called by some minor mode or a command).
>
> However, pretty much all the BODY in Org major mode definition will need
> to go into the hook. It feels awkward.

The body of a major mode should usually be limited to setting some
variables.  All the font-lock highlighting, the imenu scanning, the
syntax-propertizing, etc... is done afterwards (the later the better).

The act of folding is not part of "defining" the major mode in my
book :-)

> Will moving the whole major mode definition into
> `hack-local-variables-hook' be safe?

Define "safe".  I'm sure it'll cause problems in corner cases.
If those problems come down to the fact that `hack-local-variables-hook'
doesn't fit the bill, then we can look at fixing that.


        Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-29 14:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-05 11:44 bug#57003: 28.1.90; Can local variables be loaded before loading major mode? Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-06 13:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-06 13:35   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-06 14:00     ` Visuwesh
2022-08-06 14:34       ` Phil Sainty
2022-08-07 12:44     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-07 13:23       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-07 13:30         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-07 13:52           ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-08 11:28             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-08 12:30               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-08 12:35                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-08 12:58                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-08 14:23                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-09 11:29                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-12 12:38                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-13  1:33                           ` Phil Sainty
2022-08-13 11:52                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-13  9:02                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-13 11:55                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-13 12:22                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-13 12:32                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-15  3:09                                 ` Richard Stallman
2022-08-15  3:15                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-17  2:50                                     ` Richard Stallman
2022-08-17 10:08                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-29  3:34                                         ` Richard Stallman
2022-08-31  3:29                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-18 13:29     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-29  6:24       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-29 14:40         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2022-10-30  2:57           ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-30  3:43             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-30  3:51               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-30  4:01                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-30 12:30                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-31  3:08                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-30  6:59               ` Ihor Radchenko

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