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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>,
	57003@debbugs.gnu.org, Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
Subject: bug#57003: 28.1.90; Can local variables be loaded before loading major mode?
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2022 02:57:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pmeaauib.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvsfj6itry.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> However, pretty much all the BODY in Org major mode definition will need
>> to go into the hook. It feels awkward.
>
> The body of a major mode should usually be limited to setting some
> variables.  All the font-lock highlighting, the imenu scanning, the
> syntax-propertizing, etc... is done afterwards (the later the better).

One issue I envision is when unsafe variable dialogue is being
displayed. If font-locking is not setup prior to that, Emacs will try to
fontify the visible part of buffer when displaying the dialogue and
later font-lock settings may not fully apply.

See https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/878ro8kqwv.fsf@localhost/T/#u

> The act of folding is not part of "defining" the major mode in my
> book :-)

Indeed. However, a lot more things in Org mode depend on user
customizations. For example, buffer-invisibility-spec may be changed
depending on user settings, including settings defined in file-local
variables.

>> Will moving the whole major mode definition into
>> `hack-local-variables-hook' be safe?
>
> Define "safe".  I'm sure it'll cause problems in corner cases.
> If those problems come down to the fact that `hack-local-variables-hook'
> doesn't fit the bill, then we can look at fixing that.

I was mostly asking if you are aware about any gotchas.
As I stated above, there is at least one gotcha with early fontification
when unsafe variable dialogue is being shown.

-- 
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-30  2:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-05 11:44 bug#57003: 28.1.90; Can local variables be loaded before loading major mode? Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-06 13:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-06 13:35   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-06 14:00     ` Visuwesh
2022-08-06 14:34       ` Phil Sainty
2022-08-07 12:44     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-07 13:23       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-07 13:30         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-07 13:52           ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-08 11:28             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-08 12:30               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-08 12:35                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-08 12:58                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-08 14:23                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-09 11:29                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-12 12:38                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-13  1:33                           ` Phil Sainty
2022-08-13 11:52                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-13  9:02                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-13 11:55                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-13 12:22                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-13 12:32                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-15  3:09                                 ` Richard Stallman
2022-08-15  3:15                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-17  2:50                                     ` Richard Stallman
2022-08-17 10:08                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-29  3:34                                         ` Richard Stallman
2022-08-31  3:29                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-18 13:29     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-29  6:24       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-29 14:40         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-30  2:57           ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2022-10-30  3:43             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-30  3:51               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-30  4:01                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-30 12:30                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-31  3:08                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-30  6:59               ` Ihor Radchenko

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