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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Gregory Heytings <ghe@sdf.org>
Cc: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>,
	rrandresf@gmail.com, Tim Vaughan <timv@ughan.xyz>,
	41423@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#41423: 27.0.91; eshell file completion in tramp dir is slow (3 minutes) [regression on pretest]
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2020 12:36:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvr1rkm9cr.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.NEB.2.22.394.2009021114530453.25886@sdf.lonestar.org> (Gregory Heytings's message of "Wed, 02 Sep 2020 10:26:41 +0000")

>> The lispref says the following:
>>
>>    The functions on this hook should generally return quickly, since
>>    they may be called very often (e.g., from @code{post-command-hook}).
>>    Supplying a function for @var{collection} is strongly recommended if
>>    generating the list of completions is an expensive operation.  Emacs
>>    may internally call functions in @code{completion-at-point-functions}
>>    many times, but care about the value of @var{collection} for only
>>    some of these calls.  By supplying a function for @var{collection},
>>    Emacs can defer generating completions until necessary.  You can use
>>    @code{completion-table-dynamic} to create a wrapper function:
>>
>
> I see, thanks for the pointer.  I did not find this because I was searching
> for `pcomplete-completions-at-point' and `pcomplete-completions'.  It would
> make sense to put this pointer in pcomplete.el.

Indeed, it might make sense to add a reminder that `pcomplete-here` is
the function where we "choose which completion table to use" and that
this choice should always be quick (so if the set of candidates can take
a while to compute, make sure the completion table computes it lazily).

> It seems to me (even now that I understand the design of
> `pcomplete-completion-at-point', and that I understand how the more
> complex mechanism can be made as efficient as the simple one) that
> this simple mechanism is often sufficient, that it is easier to
> understand, and that it should remain available.

You can definitely write such a "simple completion UI" on top of
`completion-at-point-functions`, and make sure it calls things like
`pcomplete-completion-at-point` only once.

Basically, take `completion-at-point`, throw out the "minor mode"
part and you're done.

> What is still missing IMO is a general description/documentation of the
> various parts of the completion mechanisms (completion-at-point,
> completion-in-region, pcomplete, pcomplete-completion-at-point,
> comint-completion-at-point, icomplete, ...) in Emacs behave and
> interact. I was completely lost when I started working on this bug, things
> are a bit clearer now, but still not very clear.

I find it hard to write such things because I'm too familiar with it to
know what's non-obvious.  Maybe you could try writing something that
you'd have found useful, and then we can collaboratively improve it?

>> In the patch I sent I think there's a bug in that a leading * should
>> change the START..END returned by `pcomplete-completion-at-point-function`
>> so the `glob-name` computation should be done outside of the
>> `completion-table-dynamic`.
> *sigh* So this bug can still not be considered fixed?

Yup :-(
I'll try to come up with something better if noone else beats me to it.


        Stefan






  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-09-02 16:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-20 16:20 bug#41423: 27.0.91; tramp regression on pretest rrandresf
     [not found] ` <handler.41423.B.158999173030371.ack@debbugs.gnu.org>
2020-05-20 17:35   ` bug#41423: additional info andrés ramírez
2020-05-28 11:48     ` bug#41423: 27.0.91; eshell file completion in tramp dir is slow (3 minutes) [regression on pretest] (was: bug#41423: additional info) Michael Albinus
2021-02-01  2:45       ` bug#41423: 27.0.91; eshell file completion in tramp dir is slow (3 minutes) [regression on pretest] Stefan Monnier
2021-02-01  4:36         ` bug#41423: Installing the fix for bug#41423 on emacs-27 (was: 27.0.91; eshell file completion in tramp dir is slow (3 minutes) [regression on pretest]) Stefan Monnier
2021-02-01  9:59           ` bug#41423: Installing the fix for bug#41423 on emacs-27 Michael Albinus
2021-02-01 14:47           ` bug#41423: Installing the fix for bug#41423 on emacs-27 (was: 27.0.91; eshell file completion in tramp dir is slow (3 minutes) [regression on pretest]) Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-01 15:33             ` bug#41423: Installing the fix for bug#41423 on emacs-27 Stefan Monnier
2021-02-01 15:53               ` andrés ramírez
2021-02-01 16:13                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-01 17:35                   ` andrés ramírez
2022-06-27  8:29                   ` bug#41423: bug#47389: 27.1.91; completion issue on eshell Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-27 11:37                     ` andrés ramírez
2022-06-27 11:44                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-19 10:24 ` bug#41423: 27.0.91; eshell file completion in tramp dir is slow (3 minutes) [regression on pretest] Tim Vaughan via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-08-27 14:38 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-08-28  9:32   ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-08-28 13:17     ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-08-28 23:15       ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-08-29 12:38         ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-29 15:44           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-29 16:12             ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-08-30  3:55               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-30 22:28                 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-08-31  8:30                   ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-01  4:23                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-01  8:31                     ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-01 10:14                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-01 11:50                         ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-01 13:08                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-01 13:30                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-01 15:41                               ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-01 13:04                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-01 15:40                         ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-02  0:31                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-02 10:26                             ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-02 10:33                               ` Michael Albinus
2020-09-02 16:00                                 ` Drew Adams
2021-01-31 17:07                                   ` xristos--- via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-02 16:36                               ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2020-09-02 19:52                                 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-02 20:08                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-29 13:08 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-08-29 16:54   ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-29 17:14     ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-08-29 17:28       ` Michael Albinus
2021-04-21 16:06 ` bug#41423: Installing the fix for bug#41423 on emacs-27 Andrés Ramírez
2021-04-23 22:14   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-24  3:37     ` andrés ramírez

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