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From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 49507@debbugs.gnu.org, naofumi@yasufuku.dev
Subject: bug#49507: 28.0.50; macOS: Symbol’s value as variable is void: lock-file-name-transforms
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2021 12:42:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvmtqs4y1a.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <838s2cc3ay.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 11 Jul 2021 17:50:45 +0300")

>> I don't see why being defined in C would be relevant, no.
> Because those are always defined when the startup code runs.  By
> contrast, if you define them in some preloaded Lisp file, the
> defcustom form could run before the preloaded Lisp is restored from
> the pdumper file.

The error indeed came from the fact that the var is not defined when
`defcustom` is executed but instead only later on, when the predumped
Emacs is executed (in `startup.el`).

But to some extent it's only a side effect of the current implementation
of `custom-initialize-delay`.  We could change it to also define the
variable when the `defcustom` is executed.  [ AFAICT that should be
mostly painless, but past experience with this functionality tells me
that this change would inevitably introduce some unforeseen change
which we'd only discover a few months later ;-)  ]

The underlying functionality is needed for any variable that's
predefined in the dump and yet whose default value can't be precomputed
when we dump Emacs.  A `grep` shows that the vast majority of those
variables are defined in ELisp.


        Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-11 16:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-10 17:11 bug#49507: 28.0.50; macOS: Symbol’s value as variable is void: lock-file-name-transforms Naofumi Yasufuku
2021-07-10 17:17 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-10 19:17   ` Naofumi Yasufuku
2021-07-10 19:29     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-10 22:35       ` Naofumi Yasufuku
2021-07-11  6:22         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-10 19:30     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-10 19:56 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-10 22:42   ` Naofumi Yasufuku
2021-07-11  6:21     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-11 11:52       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-11 12:28         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-11 14:27           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-07-11 14:50             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-11 16:42               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2021-07-12 12:01                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-11 14:20   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-07-12 12:01     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-16 12:00 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-16 14:07   ` Naofumi Yasufuku

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