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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 49507@debbugs.gnu.org, naofumi@yasufuku.dev
Subject: bug#49507: 28.0.50; macOS: Symbol’s value as variable is void: lock-file-name-transforms
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2021 15:28:59 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83a6mtavas.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sg0lkqyv.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sun,  11 Jul 2021 13:52:24 +0200)

> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> Cc: Naofumi Yasufuku <naofumi@yasufuku.dev>,  49507@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2021 13:52:24 +0200
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > Lars, why did you use this :initialize tag here?
> 
> I was just cargo-culting from the defcustom of
> auto-save-file-name-transforms above.

The initial value of auto-save-file-name-transforms uses
temporary-file-directory, so it's reasonable to delay its
initialization until Emacs starts up, as opposed to initializing it
when Emacs is dumped (which could be on a different system).  But
lock-file-name-transforms's initial value is a constant, so we can
safely initialize it at dump time.

So I think we should simply remove the :initialize tag from that
variable.

However, given this incident, I'm worried that others could trip on
this subtlety.  So I wonder whether we should describe it in the ELisp
manual.  I think we should generally advise against using this tag for
defcustom's that might affect the startup code itself.  For 100%
safety, one should probably use it only with variables defined in C.
Stefan, do you agree?





  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-11 12:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-10 17:11 bug#49507: 28.0.50; macOS: Symbol’s value as variable is void: lock-file-name-transforms Naofumi Yasufuku
2021-07-10 17:17 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-10 19:17   ` Naofumi Yasufuku
2021-07-10 19:29     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-10 22:35       ` Naofumi Yasufuku
2021-07-11  6:22         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-10 19:30     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-10 19:56 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-10 22:42   ` Naofumi Yasufuku
2021-07-11  6:21     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-11 11:52       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-11 12:28         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2021-07-11 14:27           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-07-11 14:50             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-11 16:42               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-07-12 12:01                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-11 14:20   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-07-12 12:01     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-16 12:00 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-16 14:07   ` Naofumi Yasufuku

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