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From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 57266@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#57266: Maintaining the base_line_number cache
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2022 14:02:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvk070qi54.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83edx89rl4.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 22 Aug 2022 19:21:43 +0300")

>> >> > I didn't just mean just_this_one_p thingy, I meant all the changes
>> >> > that attempt to somehow "clean up" the use of the line-number cache.
>> >> > Why do we have to do that at all?  This stuff is not too complex, and
>> >> > it works for ages!  Isn't the fact that we find more and more small
>> >> > issues with the changes telling you something?
>> >> 
>> >> Yes, it's telling me that the code is a mess and I'm trying to fix it by
>> >> documenting what is actually needed.
>> >
>> > It's fine to fix and enhance the documentation, but please don't fix
>> > the code that works.
>> 
>> If the code doesn't match the doc, then we'll never know if the doc
>> is wrong.
>
> Which is why I'm perfectly OK with documenting what the code does.

But I'm not.  Because I don't really know what the code does.
The doc I wrote documents the design I came up with based on my
understanding of what the code does.

I went through the trouble of figuring out a design of how things
*should* work, document it, and adjust the code to match the design.
So I'm not interested in pushing some half-assed version of it that
documents a design that doesn't match the reality, nor pushing partial
fixes/workarounds (for borderline cases that noone ever bumped into
anyway) while keeping the mess of unexplained hacks.

> Please!  I hope my requests mean something, given that I'm the only
> one who works on bugs in these areas, and probably will keep doing
> that for the observable future.

Indeed, my proposed patch is not a bug fix.
It's a code-maintenance patch.  It's meant to improve the code, not
the behavior.
[ I do think it will improve the behavior in some cases (by fixing a few
  corner case bugs, and more importantly by improving performance when
  displaying a buffer is several windows), but that is not the
  motivation, and there is undoubtedly the risk that it will introduce
  regressions (which will help us better understand the code).  ]


        Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-22 18:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-17 21:18 bug#57266: Maintaining the base_line_number cache Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
     [not found] ` <handler.57266.B.166077115022973.ack@debbugs.gnu.org>
2022-08-17 21:39   ` bug#57266: Acknowledgement (Maintaining the base_line_number cache) Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-18  6:03 ` bug#57266: Maintaining the base_line_number cache Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-22  4:34   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-22 12:11     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-22 12:41       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-22 13:07         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-22 13:32           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-22 16:21             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-22 18:02               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2022-08-22 18:35                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-22 19:57                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-23 14:21                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-23 14:40                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-23 15:56                   ` Eli Zaretskii

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