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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Leo Liu <sdl.web@gmail.com>
Cc: 16346@debbugs.gnu.org, "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
Subject: bug#16346: 24.3; electric-pair-mode close-paren issue
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2014 11:12:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwviotthm85.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1sit2x7dz.fsf@gmail.com> (Leo Liu's message of "Mon, 06 Jan 2014 08:48:24 +0800")

> The idea behind eldoc-post-insert-mode is not to show the eldoc messages
> all the time which can be kinda distracting. Some editing environments
> (maybe Matlab) also only show the arglist after inserting (.

But you can get the same result with suitable use of eldoc-remove-command.

> In general I find the arglist (eldoc) most useful when editing text.

Agreed.  But I usually need it *just before* typing.  IOW, I navigate to
the point where I want to write, then look at the eldoc info, then start
typing.  Sometimes the navigation is not in eldoc-message-commands, so
I need to do something like "C-b C-f" to get eldoc to come up, but with
eldoc-post-insert-mode it's worse, because the obvious "equivalent" of
"SPC DEL" does not end with a self-insert so I need to do SPC, then read
eldoc, then DEL which I find even more annoying.

> Also getting the arglist can be expensive. For example in octave it has
> to ask the running process (which can get stuck when the process is in
> the middle of doing something else). In other cases it has to make
> remote calls.

Not sure why that's relevant.


        Stefan





  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-09 16:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-05  2:57 bug#16346: 24.3; electric-pair-mode close-paren issue Leo Liu
2014-01-05 11:49 ` João Távora
2014-01-05 15:30   ` Leo Liu
2014-01-05 19:25     ` João Távora
2014-01-05 23:13     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-06  0:48       ` Leo Liu
2014-01-09 16:12         ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2014-01-10  3:24           ` Leo Liu
2014-01-10  4:11             ` Leo Liu
2014-01-10 14:14             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-10 16:46               ` Leo Liu
2014-01-10 17:20                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-11  4:38                   ` Leo Liu
2014-01-11  5:35                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-11  6:11                       ` Leo Liu
2014-01-12  3:35                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-12  4:21                           ` Leo Liu

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