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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com>
Cc: Bastien <bzg@gnu.org>, Martin Pohlack <mp26@os.inf.tu-dresden.de>,
	Toby Cubitt <tsc25@cantab.net>,
	11774@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#11774: [O] bug#11774: bug#11774: org-mode causes undo boundaries to be lost
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 18:57:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvfw984ftk.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJcAo8t4wj-8mje2=QEKY275QXyxwkotBCftZmOVQZAsMAt7Hg@mail.gmail.com> (Samuel Wales's message of "Tue, 3 Jul 2012 11:13:07 -0700")

> The first is that it hardcodes the clustering by 20.

I guess that's the problem which is not new.

> This was possible to work around before Emacs 24.  You could advise
> self-insert-command or wrap it.  This is why Org was able to control
> this with a variable to support clustering or not clustering.

IIUC Org's clustering was only introduced because self-insert-command's
clustering only worked when it was handled by the read-eval-loop, so it
was not done to "avoid" the clustering, but to make it work in more
cases.  So it might be unneeded in Emacs-24.

> What is new in Emacs is that self-insert-command now destroys
> undo-boundary.  If you wrap it, it destroys all of your effort on the
> next call to it.

I don't have it fresh in my memory but if you can post some sample code
showing what you're doing, and how self-insert-command's behavior makes
it difficult, maybe we can make it work better.

> self-insert-command.  Even just turning that magic 20 number into a
> variable would help.

Providing it as a variable would be very easy, indeed.


        Stefan





  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-03 22:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-24 21:27 bug#11774: org-mode causes undo boundaries to be lost Toby Cubitt
2012-06-24 21:39 ` Bastien
2012-06-24 21:52   ` Toby Cubitt
2012-06-25 11:35     ` Toby Cubitt
2012-07-02  6:51       ` bug#11774: [O] " Martin Pohlack
2012-07-03  9:57         ` Toby Cubitt
2012-07-03 15:18           ` Martin Pohlack
2012-07-03 17:29             ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]             ` <jwvpq8coitq.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2012-07-03 18:13               ` bug#11774: [O] bug#11774: " Samuel Wales
2012-07-03 22:57                 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2012-07-04  0:18                   ` Samuel Wales
2012-07-04  0:24                     ` bug#11774: [O] bug#11774: " Samuel Wales
2012-07-04  9:40                     ` bug#11774: [O] " Toby Cubitt
2012-07-18 13:21                     ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                     ` <jwvpq7t1a4t.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2012-08-01 14:26                       ` bug#11774: " Bastien
     [not found]                       ` <CAJcAo8ux9Dw5Nu6x0jm59mWFaLWFG6SSeMs9dju-Jgy5nWkUcA@mail.gmail.com>
2014-11-03 14:35                         ` bug#11774: [O] " Stefan Monnier
2012-07-03 18:33       ` bug#11774: [O] " Martin Pohlack

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