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From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Daniel Mendler <mail@daniel-mendler.de>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>,
	22324@debbugs.gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Subject: bug#22324: 25.0.50; completion-category-defaults style doesn't override completion-styles (gets prepended instead)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 12:19:00 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvee4ue8na.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <184dffab-4fa4-e265-c8ef-0c088149b1b4@daniel-mendler.de> (Daniel Mendler's message of "Wed, 26 Jan 2022 14:49:48 +0100")

> This sounds like a good idea to solve the issue and retain backward
> compatibility. It is like eating the cake backwards :) A `fail'
> completion style is pretty trivial. It boils down to adding `(fail
> ignore ignore "Fail with no completions")` to the
> `completion-styles-alist`, or did I miss something?

No, because `ignore` will return nil and so we'll just keep going to the
next style.  We need try/all-completion functions for this style to
return a non-nil value but that is like "no completion".

I suspect it can't be done quite right without changing `minibuffer.el`,
but we can probably get close enough to be tolerable with older Emacsen.

E.g. for the try-completion case, I think we can return (STRING . POINT)
and for all-completions maybe returning `0` will do the trick.

> I am aware of this distinction, but I chose to ignore it. Calling it
> "quite different" feels like an exaggeration, given that Emacs is
> supposed to be configurable throughout by the user - of course this is
> only my interpretation.

The users are indeed free to mess with anything they like, of course.
But packages are allowed to change `completion-category-defaults`
whereas they're not allowed to change `completion-category-override`.

While we're here, let's not forget the other problem with
`completion-category-defaults` which is when a package puts something
like `substring` in it because `partial-completion` is not "good
enough": this can end up taking precedence over the users's
customization of the default to something like `flex` which is probably
not what's wanted.

I'm not completely sure how to fix that one.  An cheap solution would be
to allow `completion-category-defaults` to specify a function rather
than a list of styles, and then this function will return the list of
styles to use so it can dynamically adapt to the user's chosen default.
But it's kind of a cop out because that function will need to "guess"
what is the relationship between the various styles, which is the crux
of the matter.

This problem doesn't apply to `completion-category-override` since we
can consider it to be the user's responsability to take `completion-styles`
into account when setting `completion-category-override`.


        Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-26 17:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-07 20:27 bug#22324: 25.0.50; completion-category-defaults style doesn't override completion-styles (gets prepended instead) Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-08 12:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-08 12:21   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-08 12:26     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-08 12:30       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-08 15:31         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-02  9:10         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-02  9:45           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-06  1:16           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-06  2:25             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-07  1:35               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-07 20:28                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-07 22:46                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-09  1:09                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-21 13:46                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-24  2:03                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-01-24  9:46                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-25  2:27                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-01-25 12:19                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-26  1:43                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-01-26  2:31                                   ` Daniel Mendler
2022-01-26 13:36                                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-01-26 13:49                                       ` Daniel Mendler
2022-01-26 17:19                                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2022-01-26 18:59                                           ` Daniel Mendler
2022-01-26 22:57                                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-01-26 23:32                                               ` Daniel Mendler
2022-01-27  6:52                                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-01-28  2:35                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-01-28 11:54                                               ` Daniel Mendler
2022-01-28 16:56                                               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-01-28 22:06                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-01-28 23:18                                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-01-29  1:57                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-01-28  2:37                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-01-28 16:59                                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-01-28 21:23                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-01-28  2:39                                     ` Dmitry Gutov

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