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From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: "Mattias Engdegård" <mattias.engdegard@gmail.com>,
	65017@debbugs.gnu.org,
	"Eric Marsden" <eric.marsden@risk-engineering.org>
Subject: bug#65017: 29.1; Byte compiler interaction with cl-lib function objects, removes symbol-function
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2023 12:12:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv8rafq69o.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZNisFtkd0QLw0eGx@ACM> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Sun, 13 Aug 2023 10:10:30 +0000")

> Thanks, that's useful information.  But it doesn't address my questions
> in the slightest.

I'm sorry.  I guess I still haven't figured what it is that I assume as
known but which you don't actually know.

> Would you please answer these specific questions, now, to help me
> understand this difficult mechanism.  Thanks!

[ I assume you're talking about the questions below.  ]

>> >> It's not a function but a special operator, which is thus handled in
>> >> a hard-coded way by `macroexp--expand-all`.
>> > Is it the case that this hard-coded handling for function is prevented
>> > by the macro "expansion" of (function F)?
>> Yes, we first expand the macros and then try to handle the result
>> which should be one of the hard-coded cases (or is otherwise assumed to
>> be a function call).
> Are you talking about the code in macroexp--expand-all, here?

Yes.

> By "macros", do you mean cl-flet and cl-labels here (as opposed to
> function)?

I'm talking about any call to an identifier that is "currently" defined
as a macro.  This can be either because the `symbol-function` holds
something of the form `(macro . <DEF>)` or because
`macroexpand-all-environment` has an entry for that identifier.

> What do you mean by "hard-coded cases"?

The face that `macroexp--expand-all` handles the `function` identifier
as follows:

          (pcase form
            [...]
            (`(,(or 'function 'quote) . ,_) form)
            [...]


-- Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-13 16:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-02 10:28 bug#65017: 29.1; Byte compiler interaction with cl-lib function objects, removes symbol-function Eric Marsden
2023-08-03  9:39 ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-08-03 14:43   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-03 15:37     ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-08-03 16:36       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-03 16:53         ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-08-03 17:30           ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-08-03 16:43     ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-03 17:30       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-03 18:22         ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-03 21:00           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-03 21:10         ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-03 21:46           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-04  9:55             ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-05 22:45               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-04 10:14             ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-08-04 11:11               ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-04 13:41                 ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-08-05 22:40               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-06 10:47                 ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-08-08  2:33                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-04  5:35           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-04 14:16             ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-05 20:22             ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-06  4:49               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-04 13:22     ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-04 14:04       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-04 14:49         ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-04 15:22           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-04 16:43             ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-04 17:54               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-05 22:58             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-05 22:53       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-06 11:59         ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-08  2:44           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-08 16:56             ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-10  3:41               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-10 14:50                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-12  3:28                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-12  9:59                     ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-08-12 18:21                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-12 10:40                     ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-08-12 16:46                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-12 18:28                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-13 10:10                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-13 16:12                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2023-08-14 17:10                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-03 16:11   ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-03 16:41     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-03 18:48       ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-09 12:27 ` Alan Mackenzie

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