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* bug#65897: 29.1.50; Debugging errors surfaced through emacsclient is hard
@ 2023-09-12 19:42 Spencer Baugh
  2023-09-14 14:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Spencer Baugh @ 2023-09-12 19:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 65897


Errors which happen through emacsclient never trigger the debugger and
only print a simple error message, which makes it very difficult to
debug them.  If there's an error which, for some reason, only happens
when running emacsclient, then life becomes very difficult.  I just
encountered this with one of my users - I still have no idea why the
error only affected emacsclient, or how I could have reproduced it
without emacsclient, I eventually fixed it by bisecting their .emacs.

Toy example:
1. emacs -Q
2. (server-start)
3. (add-hook 'before-make-frame-hook (lambda () (error "frame hook error")))
4. emacsclient -c

The output of emacsclient is:

Waiting for Emacs...
*ERROR*: frame hook error

That's all, there is no way to get more information about the error that
happened.

Ideally, when emacsclient encounters an error and debug-on-error is
non-nil, it should cause Emacs to enter the debugger.


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* bug#65897: 29.1.50; Debugging errors surfaced through emacsclient is hard
  2023-09-12 19:42 bug#65897: 29.1.50; Debugging errors surfaced through emacsclient is hard Spencer Baugh
@ 2023-09-14 14:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
  2023-09-18 14:00   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-09-14 14:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Spencer Baugh, Stefan Monnier; +Cc: 65897

> From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com>
> Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 15:42:37 -0400
> 
> Toy example:
> 1. emacs -Q
> 2. (server-start)
> 3. (add-hook 'before-make-frame-hook (lambda () (error "frame hook error")))
> 4. emacsclient -c
> 
> The output of emacsclient is:
> 
> Waiting for Emacs...
> *ERROR*: frame hook error
> 
> That's all, there is no way to get more information about the error that
> happened.
> 
> Ideally, when emacsclient encounters an error and debug-on-error is
> non-nil, it should cause Emacs to enter the debugger.

I'm not sure we can allow entering the debugger from server-execute.
That function is documented as being called from timers and process
filters, so entering the debugger might be unsafe.

Stefan, any comments?





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* bug#65897: 29.1.50; Debugging errors surfaced through emacsclient is hard
  2023-09-14 14:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2023-09-18 14:00   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-09-18 14:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: Spencer Baugh, 65897

>> Toy example:
>> 1. emacs -Q
>> 2. (server-start)
>> 3. (add-hook 'before-make-frame-hook (lambda () (error "frame hook error")))
>> 4. emacsclient -c
>> 
>> The output of emacsclient is:
>> 
>> Waiting for Emacs...
>> *ERROR*: frame hook error
>> 
>> That's all, there is no way to get more information about the error that
>> happened.
>> 
>> Ideally, when emacsclient encounters an error and debug-on-error is
>> non-nil, it should cause Emacs to enter the debugger.
>
> I'm not sure we can allow entering the debugger from server-execute.
> That function is documented as being called from timers and process
> filters, so entering the debugger might be unsafe.

AFAIK it is perfectly safe to drop into the debugger when running timers
and process-filters.  I believe the reason why this doesn't happen here is
because of the `condition-case` used to grab the error and send it to
Emacsclient's output.  See patch below.

We could also offer a way to grab the backtrace and send it over to
Emacsclient's output.


        Stefan


diff --git a/lisp/server.el b/lisp/server.el
index 10f15598221..2536a9c6591 100644
--- a/lisp/server.el
+++ b/lisp/server.el
@@ -1175,7 +1175,7 @@ server-process-filter
     (when prev
       (setq string (concat prev string))
       (process-put proc 'previous-string nil)))
-  (condition-case err
+  (condition-case-unless-debug err
       (progn
 	(server-add-client proc)
 	;; Send our pid






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