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From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>
Cc: sbaugh@catern.com, 63648@debbugs.gnu.org, Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Subject: bug#63648: 29.0.90; project.el: with switch-use-entire-map, switch-project errors on non-project commands
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2023 10:00:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ierbkcu4sre.fsf@janestreet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6149d7a4-f47e-2ac4-91cf-fe144d1a4c63@gutov.dev> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Thu, 19 Oct 2023 15:49:20 +0300")

Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev> writes:
> On 19/10/2023 15:22, sbaugh@catern.com wrote:
>> Hm, I personally think having to hit the extra "o" is undesirable.
>> I'm
>> not sure whether "C-x p p o" would be an improvement over the current
>> state of the world: you can already hit "C-x p p D" to run
>> project-dired, so you end up in dired at the root of the project, and
>> then run whatever command you like with default-directory=project-root.
>
> It makes this capability apparent, and it's still one fewer keystroke
> (and 'o' is close to 'p', too).

One fewer keystroke?  Oh, since one has to hit shift to type
D... there's equivalently C-x p p v, then, which is the same length in
keystrokes.

>> The main downside of C-x p p D is that it necessarily switches buffers,
>> which I often don't want.  Solving that would be nice, but it would be
>> nice to also get a shorter keybinding out of it.
>> Actually, this gives me an idea.  What if we embraced having C-x p p
>> switch buffers?  What if we had a new command which jumps you to some
>> new "project status buffer", whose default-directory=project-root, and
>> which has single-letter bindings for the current project-prefix
>> commands?  Similar to vc-dir.  We could probably find some useful
>> information to display in that buffer, too, like a header which extracts
>> the status from the project's compilation buffer, or a list of the
>> buffers in the project.
>
> I'm totally on board with adding such command, except I'm not sure if
> we will give away the 'C-x p p' binding to it. But as far as calling
> the "next" command, both project-vc-dir and project-dired currently
> satisfy your condition, right?

Yes.  Although project-vc-dir and project-dired don't provide a nice
solution for how to implement the C-x p p single key bindings.  With the
project-status buffer, if it had the single-key bindings, then we would
just say "C-x p p resolves keybindings as they would be resolved in
project-status".

BTW, a more tangential idea: a list-projects command and associated
*Project List* buffer would be nice.  With:

- a list of all remembered projects, with some details about each one
- you can hit RET to open a project's project-status
- with something (a post-command-hook?) which updates default-directory
  so that it matches the project at point, so commands you run operate
  on that project (e.g. find-file)
- and the same single key bindings that are in project-prefix-map
  (maybe C-x p RET should be the binding to open project-status in general)

This would be a nice complement to project-switch-project: list-projects
and project-switch-project would be like list-buffers and
switch-to-buffer.

(The combination of list-projects and project-status buffers would
basically be a port of what we have internally at Jane Street.  While
I'm saying that, I should mention also our equivalent of
project-switch-project: when passed a prefix argument, all our
equivalent-to-project-* commands will prompt for a project.  This is not
a great solution though, it doesn't scale well since every command needs
to be aware of this prefix argument.  The C-x p p design of a separate
command which overrides the project for the next command is much better,
and once we get a good design I plan to tell our users to start using
C-x p p for our internal commands instead of passing the prefix
argument.)

>> If we replaced C-x p p with this command, then that would avoid all our
>> issues with default-directory and command loops and so on, by just
>> biting the bullet and switching buffers.
>
> Except when one wants to call a command that takes the current buffer
> into account. And/or its contents in particular (e.g. file name at
> point).
>
>> Although, maybe we can get the best of both worlds by having C-x p p
>> just temporarily switch buffer?  It can do (with-current-buffer
>> (project-status) ...) plus resolving keybindings as if they were typed
>> in the project-status buffer.  That seems pretty elegant to me and
>> resolves a lot of complexities without giving up anything.
>
> https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=63829 was a problem
> caused by a similar approach in the implementation. OTOH,

I was thinking we'd solve both this specific problem and the general
case by just saving the current buffer in a project-old-buffer variable
so that project-aware commands could go back and grab stuff from it.

It does mean that project-unaware commands can't both operate in a
different project and on the current buffer.  Is there ever a place we
actually want that though?

> https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=58784 probably doesn't
> apply (most of the time; unless the projects are nested or whatever).

Indeed.





  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-19 14:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-22 16:27 bug#63648: 29.0.90; project.el: with switch-use-entire-map, switch-project errors on non-project commands Spencer Baugh
2023-05-22 17:51 ` Juri Linkov
2023-05-24  1:14   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-24  6:20     ` Juri Linkov
2023-05-24 15:46       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-24 16:20         ` Juri Linkov
2023-05-24 17:37           ` Juri Linkov
2023-05-24 17:44             ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01 16:05               ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-02  1:40                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-06-02  6:40                   ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-03  1:30                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-08-10 11:56                     ` sbaugh
2023-08-23 13:53                       ` Spencer Baugh
2023-08-23 17:54                         ` Juri Linkov
2023-08-29 20:36                           ` Spencer Baugh
2023-08-29 20:40                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-08-29 21:47                             ` Spencer Baugh
2023-08-29 22:32                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-08-30 16:27                             ` Juri Linkov
2023-08-31  2:01                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-08-31  6:47                                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-08-31 11:13                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-08-31 16:36                                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-09-01  1:11                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-01  6:46                                         ` Juri Linkov
2023-09-01  9:53                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-01 15:59                                             ` Spencer Baugh
2023-09-02  1:47                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-03 17:11                                               ` Juri Linkov
2023-09-11 20:16                                                 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-09-12  6:55                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2023-09-10 15:30                                             ` Juri Linkov
2023-09-12 23:47                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-13  6:47                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-09-18  0:12                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-18  6:51                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-09-18 11:00                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-18 13:56                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-19 17:57                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2023-09-20  0:39                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-20 17:10                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2023-09-21  1:16                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-21  6:58                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2023-09-22 15:52                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-10-19  0:42                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-10-19  4:46                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-19  6:43                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2023-10-19  7:51                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-19  9:46                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-10-19 11:05                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-19 11:34                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-10-19 12:22                                                                         ` sbaugh
2023-10-19 12:49                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-10-19 14:00                                                                             ` Spencer Baugh [this message]
2023-10-19 17:17                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-10-19 19:30                                                                                 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-10-19 23:25                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-10-21 16:09                                                                                     ` Spencer Baugh
2023-10-21 18:43                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-10-19 18:03                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2023-10-19 19:38                                                                                 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-10-19 17:56                                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2023-10-19 22:39                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-10-20  6:44                                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2023-10-20 19:25                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-10-23  6:58                                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-10-23 17:24                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-10-23 17:34                                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-10-23 17:36                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-10-23 18:42                                                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2023-10-23 18:49                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-10-25 16:53                                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-10-25 22:26                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-10-27  6:50                                                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2023-10-27  9:38                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-10-28 16:56                                                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-01 21:12                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-02 17:20                                                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-02 21:33                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-04 17:28                                                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-05  0:55                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-06  7:16                                                                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-06 22:49                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-10-21 13:27                                                                         ` sbaugh
2023-10-21 18:41                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-10-21 13:14                                                                       ` sbaugh
2023-08-28 22:44                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-08-29 20:34                           ` Spencer Baugh
2023-06-02 12:46                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-02 16:09                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-02  6:32                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-02  6:55                   ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-02 11:39                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-02 16:11                       ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-05  6:53                       ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-02 17:07                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-06-05  6:50                   ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-05 14:44                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-06-05 16:31                       ` Juri Linkov
2023-05-24 14:55   ` Spencer Baugh
2023-05-24 16:24     ` Juri Linkov
2023-05-26 15:16       ` Spencer Baugh
2023-05-30 17:48         ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01 20:31           ` Spencer Baugh
2023-06-01 21:09             ` Drew Adams
2023-06-02  6:33               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-02  6:46             ` Juri Linkov
2023-08-10 11:52               ` sbaugh

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