bug#2051: 23.0.60; task bar tooltip for GNU Emacs group

bug#2051: 23.0.60; task bar tooltip for GNU Emacs group

[Drew Adams]

On MS Windows, a mouseover on the taskbar group for an Emacs
session shows this tooltip:
 
"GNU Emacs for Windows NT/95/98/2000/ME/XP"
 
I don't use Vista, but I assume Emacs runs on Vista also. And it will
run on Windows 7 or whatever new comes along. I'd recommend removing
all of the version info and just using something like this:
 
"GNU Emacs for MS Windows"
 
Note the addition of "MS" (or perhaps "Microsoft"), to avoid confusion
with other meanings of "windows".
 
Or perhaps just "GNU Emacs" would be best. It's obviously running on
Windows, and Emacs on Windows is not a different product from Emacs
generally.
 
In particular, the "for" in "GNU Emacs for Windows" makes it sound
like this is some separate product designed specially _for_ (if not
by) Microsoft, even without the "MS" - kinda like "Michelin tires
for Costco". And that's far from being the case - this Emacs was
not made for Microsoft (or for MS Windows); it just runs (also) on
MS Windows. I don't see any other applications putting
"for Windows" in their tooltips. GNU should be the last to do that.
 

In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
 of 2009-01-04 on LENNART-69DE564
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/g/include
-fno-crossjumping'
 

bug#2051: 23.0.60; task bar tooltip for GNU Emacs group

[Stefan Monnier]

> On MS Windows, a mouseover on the taskbar group for an Emacs
> session shows this tooltip:
 
> "GNU Emacs for Windows NT/95/98/2000/ME/XP"
 
> I don't use Vista, but I assume Emacs runs on Vista also. And it will
> run on Windows 7 or whatever new comes along. I'd recommend removing
> all of the version info and just using something like this:
 
> "GNU Emacs for MS Windows"
 
> Note the addition of "MS" (or perhaps "Microsoft"), to avoid confusion
> with other meanings of "windows".
 
> Or perhaps just "GNU Emacs" would be best. It's obviously running on
> Windows, and Emacs on Windows is not a different product from Emacs
> generally.
 
Yes, "GNU Emacs" is best.  We don't want to play MS's game of repeating
"MS" or "Microsoft" next to every name.


        Stefan

bug#2051: marked as done (23.0.60; task bar tooltip for GNU Emacs group)

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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: <emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org>
Subject: 23.0.60; task bar tooltip for GNU Emacs group
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:08:46 -0800
Message-ID: <003d01c97f17$f77bf080$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com>

On MS Windows, a mouseover on the taskbar group for an Emacs
session shows this tooltip:
 
"GNU Emacs for Windows NT/95/98/2000/ME/XP"
 
I don't use Vista, but I assume Emacs runs on Vista also. And it will
run on Windows 7 or whatever new comes along. I'd recommend removing
all of the version info and just using something like this:
 
"GNU Emacs for MS Windows"
 
Note the addition of "MS" (or perhaps "Microsoft"), to avoid confusion
with other meanings of "windows".
 
Or perhaps just "GNU Emacs" would be best. It's obviously running on
Windows, and Emacs on Windows is not a different product from Emacs
generally.
 
In particular, the "for" in "GNU Emacs for Windows" makes it sound
like this is some separate product designed specially _for_ (if not
by) Microsoft, even without the "MS" - kinda like "Michelin tires
for Costco". And that's far from being the case - this Emacs was
not made for Microsoft (or for MS Windows); it just runs (also) on
MS Windows. I don't see any other applications putting
"for Windows" in their tooltips. GNU should be the last to do that.
 

In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
 of 2009-01-04 on LENNART-69DE564
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/g/include
-fno-crossjumping'
 




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From: Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>, 2051-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
Subject: Re: bug#2051: 23.0.60; task bar tooltip for GNU Emacs group
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:53:00 +0800
Message-ID: <497D258C.1080900@gnu.org>

Drew Adams wrote:
> Or perhaps just "GNU Emacs" would be best. It's obviously running on
> Windows, and Emacs on Windows is not a different product from Emacs
> generally.
>   

I've changed it along these lines.