From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "Pip Cet" <pipcet@gmail.com>, "Mattias Engdegård" <mattiase@acm.org>
Cc: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>,
40968@debbugs.gnu.org, Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>
Subject: bug#40968: 28.0.50; (apply nil)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 09:32:04 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fabfb1fd-4da1-4e72-90c9-333532011a48@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOqdjBdQne3RFTjg4hej40L5aeBx6vbGp6nXKx2TwPkLPf5NPw@mail.gmail.com>
> I think there's consensus, then.
FTR, FWIW: Not a consensus that includes me.
I'm in favor of making an incompatible change,
to align Emacs with Common Lisp's more reasonable
behavior.
As I said:
Common Lisp is unequivocally in the camp of
requiring at least two args.
And if Elisp follows that (which I think it should,
unless someone can present a good use case for just
(apply FUNCTION)), then it should raise an error if
there are not at least two args.
The only good case presented was to say that this
would be an incompatible change. Yes, it would,
and we should make it.
If you want to, temporarily, issue a compile-time
and runtime warning, instead of raising an error,
OK. But Emacs should wean code and users off of
the undesirable (IMO) behavior that's been allowed.
The doc should be changed to discourage such use,
and users should be warned that it's deprecated.
Just one, non-consensual, opinion.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-06-02 16:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-29 18:26 bug#40968: 28.0.50; (apply nil) Pip Cet
2020-04-29 18:35 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-06 1:51 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-06 7:26 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-06 11:24 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-06 11:49 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-06 13:02 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-06 13:55 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-06 15:28 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-06 18:06 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-06 19:26 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-06 14:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-06 17:54 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-06 18:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-06 18:00 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-06 18:28 ` Noam Postavsky
2020-05-06 19:17 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-06 19:21 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-06 19:28 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-07 2:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-06 17:46 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-06 20:32 ` Phil Sainty
2020-05-06 21:35 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-29 3:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-06 10:18 ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-05-06 10:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-06 10:57 ` Andreas Schwab
2020-05-06 11:25 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-06 11:49 ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-05-06 18:42 ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-05-07 6:53 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-07 9:11 ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-05-07 11:54 ` Noam Postavsky
2020-05-07 11:58 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-07 12:20 ` Noam Postavsky
2020-05-07 13:53 ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-06-02 7:36 ` Pip Cet
2020-06-02 16:32 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2020-06-02 16:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-02 16:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-27 15:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-27 19:28 ` Drew Adams
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2020-06-02 17:10 ` Drew Adams
2020-06-02 18:41 ` Pip Cet
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